ckbraider Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Guys/Girls, you have probably all seen the electric pumps they use in gunshops to charge airguns and the scuba tanks but do any of you guys have any idea on where i might be able to buy one from any advice is much appreciated cheers CK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike315lx Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 saw some advertised in the complete airgunsport guide 2003-2oo4 it is availble for 2pounds fifty p+p go to www.airgunsport.com its a good mag and is advertised in airgunner december mag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digga Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 hi ckb, whatabout asking in your nearest tyre fitters, am not sure but the pumps your on about have to be at least 200bar! and i think thats a bloody big tank :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermin Dropper Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 CK, they are basically large compressors, presumably any decent workshop compressor would do the job as long as you get the connectors and can reach the required pressure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike315lx Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 i work with electic motors and priced up making my own and the problem comes when you compress air it creates heat and you have to cool it through a radiator to remove the water the cheapest way is to buy a pukka machine but they are not cheap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulcha Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Doesn't all the moisture have to be removed from the air? Thats why you can't use compressors for nail guns and things Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lurcherboy Posted November 29, 2004 Report Share Posted November 29, 2004 Saw an ad about a year ago in Airgunner mag, cost £499-00 or there about. Only becomes cheap if you pool your resources with buddies. LB :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted November 30, 2004 Report Share Posted November 30, 2004 OK chaps. High pressure gases and compressors are my business. Digga, dont bother the tyre fitters; their compressor will only go upto around 15 bar, this is because its only single stage. To achieve 200 bar we use 4 stage compressors, they cost £27,000 each, and are costly to maintain. I have seen small 5cfm hp compressors occasionaly on ebay, they always fetch a good price; if you get one and land a pup, you wont believe the cost of the parts. I havnt seen the £200 jobs, but cant imagine that they could be upto much, if you can post some details Ill give you the low down. For the average air gunner with a pcp I would suggest that they locate the local scuba shop, most have filling facilities for a few quid. Personaly, I use Nitrogen, because its clean, dry and free to me, as we compress N2, and dont compress hp air. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowman Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 ok guys, i am new to the pcp scene, i hear so many diff stories about these things, what about the pressure bottles used in pubs ans the CO2 gass used when migg welding :S:S???:thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermin Dropper Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 I wouldn't be ***** with buying one, My local scuba shop fills mine for the same price as a "pony bottle" Can't knock £1 a go, :thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowman Posted December 8, 2004 Report Share Posted December 8, 2004 but i supose you gotta keep ontop of the gas in your bottle, make a visit to your "LOCAL" divers shop (mine is 21 miles away!) but i actully live 2 mins from a pub!:thumbs: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 Shadowman Please explain what you do with the pub bottles? webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowman Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 i am sory, *pub bottles* aint really a good example, lol. They are the gas bottles that is used to pump the soft drink to the pumps, i think they are 220psi, i may be wrong, also i found a CO2 bottle, can i use this for charging? anyone know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon-Boy Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 You need a bit more than 220 psi, more like 200bar (3000psi) you need a stirrup pump, alot of hard work but no need to keep goin to divers shop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadowman Posted December 9, 2004 Report Share Posted December 9, 2004 i could well be wrong, may be 220 bar, i can just remember seeing 220 (or 200) in black writing and then a larger number in red :S:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 of 5 Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 YOU CAN NOT USE A PUB CO2 BOTTLE FOR AIR. Co2 runs at various pressures entirely dependany upon temperature. 800-1200 psi is quite normal. Most guns require air at around the 3000 psi mark to fill them meaning you need more than that in the bottle. No dive shop in their right mind will think of filling a co2 bottle with air and even if they will the fittings are completely diffferent so a. they can't fill it and b. you can't attatch your hose and guage to it. Don't even contemplate sticking co2 in a pcp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Shadowman As I have previously posted, gas cylinders, filling gas cylinders, and in particular "pub cylinders" is my business, and has been for almost three decades. The reply given by 1 of 5 is sort of correct; except to say that if I find you fiddling with pub bottles, you will be doing a Paul Burrel, but with your own dangly bits. Dont mess with stuff that you know nowt about. The gun shops dont sell the stuff that they do just so that you can do it some other way and risk blowing your hand off. There is a tremendous amount of stored energy in a cylinder filled to 200 or 300 bar. Accidents can and do happen, no warning is given. Just do it right and you should be safe enough. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 of 5 Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 Results of a Nitrous oxide bottle explosion - air will achieve a similar level of devastation. NOT AN AREA FOR EXPERIMENTATION Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webber Posted December 10, 2004 Report Share Posted December 10, 2004 1 in 5 Thanks for that. It wouldnt be appropriate for me to publish any photos of incidents that I have attended over the years. NOX is rum stuff, and the lads that play around with it dont realise untill its too late. webber Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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