Ammunition reduction

[markbivvy]

I have also been told from a good friend that there is no thing as an open cert and if you ask for one it will be an unrecognized request.

 

then your friend is a fool.

and you are chasing a dream.

[harv]

Thanks for the info.

I will have to phone HQ in the morning to ask more.

 

I will post the answer they give me.

 

I have read

Closed ticket = Only land named on the certificate

Semi-Open ticket = On any land deemed suitable by the chief of police for the force area which the land is situated

Open certificate = any land on which you have lawful permission from the landowner and you deem suitable to shoot

 

In the link you sent me that seems to be the common answer.

I have also been told from a good friend that there is no thing as an open cert and if you ask for one it will be an unrecognized request.I will see what happens in the morning

 

Regards

listen to what mark has told you he is correct your friend is not

[Steve Henderson]

I have also been told from a good friend that there is no thing as an open cert and if you ask for one it will be an unrecognized request.

 

then your friend is a fool.

and you are chasing a dream.

 

 

Mark. There is no need for personal attacks mate.

I thought this was a debate " to exchange information "

well I can only tell you the information that I have been given but my friend is also a good decent friend. If he is wrong so be it but I can tell you he is no fool.

 

And chasing a dream ?

[Steve Henderson]

Thanks for the info.

I will have to phone HQ in the morning to ask more.

 

I will post the answer they give me.

 

I have read

Closed ticket = Only land named on the certificate

Semi-Open ticket = On any land deemed suitable by the chief of police for the force area which the land is situated

Open certificate = any land on which you have lawful permission from the landowner and you deem suitable to shoot

 

In the link you sent me that seems to be the common answer.

I have also been told from a good friend that there is no thing as an open cert and if you ask for one it will be an unrecognized request.I will see what happens in the morning

 

Regards

listen to what mark has told you he is correct your friend is not

 

I am not saying mark is wrong !

i am saying that "i was told that"....its a debate to exchange information isn't it ?

 

Regards

[markbivvy]

I have also been told from a good friend that there is no thing as an open cert and if you ask for one it will be an unrecognized request.

 

then your friend is a fool.

and you are chasing a dream.

 

 

Mark. There is no need for personal attacks mate.

I thought this was a debate " to exchange information "

well I can only tell you the information that I have been given but my friend is also a good decent friend. If he is wrong so be it but I can tell you he is no fool.

 

And chasing a dream ?

And chasing a dream

you are if there is no open ticket.

[harv]

Thats exactly what we are trying to do? exchange sensible info that is.

Edited October 21, 2008 by harv

[markbivvy]

the correct term you would be better of using to your FLD is less restrictive fac/ticket.

if a friend of mine gave me wrong info that i then put on a forum for people to read i would call him a bit more than a fool, its the way i am.

infact a good few on here would say thats a polite reply from me.

Edited October 21, 2008 by markbivvy

[Shootingman]

Thanks for the info.

I will have to phone HQ in the morning to ask more.

 

I will post the answer they give me.

 

I have read

Closed ticket = Only land named on the certificate

Semi-Open ticket = On any land deemed suitable by the chief of police for the force area which the land is situated

Open certificate = any land on which you have lawful permission from the landowner and you deem suitable to shoot

 

In the link you sent me that seems to be the common answer.

I have also been told from a good friend that there is no thing as an open cert and if you ask for one it will be an unrecognized request.I will see what happens in the morning

 

Regards

listen to what mark has told you he is correct your friend is not

 

I am not saying mark is wrong !

i am saying that "i was told that"....its a debate to exchange information isn't it ?

 

Regards

You're asking for advise, yet when given the answer from experienced people, you keep refering to your mates advise,which incidentally is incorrect, if you cannot accept the advise given by forum members, I suggest you listen to your mate & when you've lost your FAC ask your mate to explain why.

[Steve Henderson]

Thanks for the info.

I will have to phone HQ in the morning to ask more.

 

I will post the answer they give me.

 

I have read

Closed ticket = Only land named on the certificate

Semi-Open ticket = On any land deemed suitable by the chief of police for the force area which the land is situated

Open certificate = any land on which you have lawful permission from the landowner and you deem suitable to shoot

 

In the link you sent me that seems to be the common answer.

I have also been told from a good friend that there is no thing as an open cert and if you ask for one it will be an unrecognized request.I will see what happens in the morning

 

Regards

listen to what mark has told you he is correct your friend is not

 

I am not saying mark is wrong !

i am saying that "i was told that"....its a debate to exchange information isn't it ?

 

Regards

You're asking for advise, yet when given the answer from experienced people, you keep refering to your mates advise,which incidentally is incorrect, if you cannot accept the advise given by forum members, I suggest you listen to your mate & when you've lost your FAC ask your mate to explain why.

 

I am not doubting the advice thats been given out my friend I am simply stating all the advice I have been given as well to add to the thread.

I never said you lads are wrong I am saying what else I have been told thats all.

LOOK, do not get me wrong I appreciate the advice and it has give me food for thought but now I can express simple discussion without been shouted down.

I also never said my mates were right ( only quoted what they said ).

 

So to sum this forum up ! if you do not agree and go with the flow its not accepted on here ?

There is no room for comment or discussion ?

And if anyone questions answers they get hurled with personal insults and patronizing comments ?

 

I appreciate the answers given so far but I really do not think that this is an "open forum" the restrictions are a bit overpowering to say the least, all you want is for me to totally accept answers from members that do not carry the title of "firearms officer" or if they do they have not told me so I will do the correct thing and contact the firearms office ( like I should of done in the first place ).

I never came on here to insult or be insulted but taken into account that this forum can not be open for question I must decline my registration on here so if admin is reading this I would be more than grateful if you could remove my membership from this site.

 

Regards Steve

[bignoel]

it is pure and simple i have same on my license . if you want to shoot on new land find out if passed for your calibre rifle then ring fao office give them postcode to farm they confirm its passed get written permission from farmer heh your away. simple if its not passed ask for it to be tried simple

[Mungler]

Steve,

 

Having read this thread from start to finish I do actually believe that everyone here has bent over backwards to politely provide you with the information you need, however, you seem intent on ignoring absolutely everything on here and continue to seek the advice you only want to hear, notwithstanding that it is wrong.

 

If you re-read this thread and look at it independantly you will see that the members who have responded have actually tried quite hard to give you the right information and politely and yet you have persisted to ignore it. That is a matter for you of course.

[Dunkield]

I never came on here to insult or be insulted but taken into account that this forum can not be open for question I must decline my registration on here so if admin is reading this I would be more than grateful if you could remove my membership from this site.

Regards Steve

Steve, Mungler has said it really, but looking though thread you asked a question, have been given the correct answer, several times in fact, and yet you refuse to accept the advice from people who have been shooting many years and have masses of experience

[radio1ham]

well you not the only one i also had mine reduced from a 1000 .22 to 600

and my .243 lifted from 100 upto 200

 

but i guess thats life and not alot we can do about it something to do with new homeoffice guidelines so i was told on the phone and also with my new cert a letter inside with it saying had been reduced

but im happy either way at least we still have our fac`s

 

 

also sounds like you restricted to as where you can shoot if it states in the conditions land deemed suitable by cheif of police for your area you are restricted to that land only and on ranges

 

i had the restricion lifted on mine at time of renewal as for doing fox control with the .243 and licensed for the shooting of deer aswell and the .22 aswell for vermin

 

but if you have other land to shoot on get permission letters and post them in to fac officer showing you have more land to shoot on and they will either pass it or they wont and they will let you know its ok

 

dont go assuming once you hold an fac you can go anywhere even if you have permission as if you got pulled on the land that had not been deemed suitable you could risk loosing you fac

 

but if you go shooting say with a friend on his permission and has been passed for firearms .22 etc you should be ok but make sure it has been passed and that you have lawfull authority to shoot there

 

 

best be safe than sorry

Edited October 22, 2008 by radio1ham

[MC]

A lot depends on how often you buy your ammo and in what quantities.

 

If you only buy 500 or less at a time and not very often you will have your allowance reduced. I only had 500 to buy and 600 to hold at first. Once I had filled up the back of my FAC and asked for another one they soon put my limit up.

[markbivvy]

If you do happen to come back, read this. The BBS was down last night so i could not post it for you.

 

 

http://www.airgunbbs.com/forums/showthread.php?t=239250

 

you should have no doubts once you have seen it.

 

this bit.

 

I have a pest control business and travel wide and far doing work so I need to take the .22 where need be.

 

Wont work with your firearms department, unless they are very sympathetic .

the police are more concerned about public safety than they are with what you do for a living.

Money matters dont swing it with them as you have all ready found out.

 

You said in an earlier post that you have held a fac before, what you have to do is convince the firearms department that this is not a fad you are going through.

good luck.