hill billy Posted January 27, 2005 Report Share Posted January 27, 2005 hello every body i brought a crossman rat catcher .22 about 6 months ago and i am now running out of money so i fear i may have to sell it and i was wondering if any one was interested and how much i should sell it for. It has a brand new rat catcher gun bag and also has the red tipped scilencer and a bushnell scope. i am open for offers it has a couple of small scratches from the scope mounts but apart from that its fine. thanks very much jason Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted January 28, 2005 Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 How much did it cost originally? What power is it running at (I'm guessing legal limit) What scope has it got (Magnification and diameter) Might very well be interested. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hill billy Posted January 28, 2005 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2005 the power is the legal limit of a pistol because thats what class it's under so about 8 foot pounds i think the scope is not huge i think its a bushnell 4 x 26 sports view i paid £106 for just the gun then i think the rest cost about £80 on top, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 of 5 Posted January 29, 2005 Report Share Posted January 29, 2005 (edited) 1. A Ratcatcher is NOT a pistol. It's made and classified as a rifle. As such it may run upto 12 ft/lb without a FAC. 2. The legal limit for a pistol is 6 ft/lb NOT 8. 3. Ratcatchers do between 7.5 and 8.5 ft/lb in standard trim. Getting much above 10 ft/lb with any degree of consistency requires a longer barrel. The 24" 2260 Rabbitstopper barrel is the usual donor suspect for such a conversion. 4. Worth around £100. The red tip is flouting trades descriptions by using the word silencer. It's not particularly effective. Edited January 29, 2005 by 1 of 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted February 1, 2005 Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 1. A Ratcatcher is NOT a pistol. It's made and classified as a rifle. As such it may run upto 12 ft/lb without a FAC. 2. The legal limit for a pistol is 6 ft/lb NOT 8. 3. Ratcatchers do between 7.5 and 8.5 ft/lb in standard trim. Getting much above 10 ft/lb with any degree of consistency requires a longer barrel. The 24" 2260 Rabbitstopper barrel is the usual donor suspect for such a conversion. 4. Worth around £100. The red tip is flouting trades descriptions by using the word silencer. It's not particularly effective. not recommended then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hill billy Posted February 1, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2005 (edited) im sorry but i thought to the best of my knowlege that it was classified as a pistol Edited February 7, 2005 by hill billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 OUCH! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul in North Lincs. Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 oh dear!!!!!! :( isn't that coming form the man who (if I remember rightly) shoots with a 14 shot semi auto???B)??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Paul in North Lincs. 'those in glass houses.................' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblade Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 (edited) well im so sorry if i offended your huge knolege of guns 1 of 5 but i have one word bo**ocks firstly a rat catcher is classed as a pistol because it is just the crossman 2240 with a bit longer barrel and a skeliton stock http://airgunsbbguns.com/crosman-crossman-...pelletguns.html hi Jason, the link above should take you to the "RIFLE" page where the rat catcher is listed, its not just the pistol with a longer barrel, and a slkeleton stock! its totally different thing. so please retract your offending statement. if it were a modified pistol then you would be looking at 5 year prison term on fire arms charges once a pistol always a pistol. and yes the red tip is listed as a silencer but does the job marginally better than a coke can would only it looks better. the rat catchers are a brilliant little rifle for close range ratting (25 yards max) i should know i use one myself. but reselling ti you should be looking about £50 for the rifle and maybe £40 (if your lucky for the scope and mounts) so all together about £100+£20 postage. the trouble with buying new and selling second hand things depriciate in value as soon as you leave the shop, and as you said yourself its not in pristine condition as it has a couple of scratches. ROB Edited February 7, 2005 by roblade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanlee Posted February 2, 2005 Report Share Posted February 2, 2005 the link above should take you to the "RIFLE" page where the rat catcher is listed, its not just the pistol with a longer barrel, and a slkeleton stock! its totally different thing. so please retract your offending statement. if it were a modified pistol then you would be looking at 5 year prison term on fire arms charges once a pistol always a pistol. When does a rifle become a pistol? I had my superten carbine apart at the weekend, and, apart from the buddy bottle being in a awkward place for a pistol, it could easily be converted into a pistol - the barrel is only just over 12" long, and once the stock and silencer are removed, the action is quite small. A few hours carving a new one hand stock is all that is required. Alan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted February 3, 2005 Report Share Posted February 3, 2005 hi hill billy.the post by 1 of 5 was as far as i can see 100% correct the only thing that could be variable was the valuation of the gun as its only worth what somebody will pay for it,that having been said i think he was 100% correct on that point too.if you search back through a few of the airgun threads you will find that 1 of 5 is one of the most knowledgeable guys on the site when it comes to airguns,i cant vouch for his shooting ability but i can guarantee that his technical knowledge and information given is second to none mate and if you are serious about airgunning he would be one of the guys you would be wise to befriend.please do not take any offence at this post as its is meant as friendly advice mate and not a dig at you ,we all know what its like to buy what we thought was the greatest gun in the world and take it back to the gun shop a few months later for a trade in only to be told by the guy that sold it to you that its a worthless piece of junk that he would never put on his shelf. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 of 5 Posted February 4, 2005 Report Share Posted February 4, 2005 (edited) Thanks mel b3 - the cheque's in the post for that recommendation As to my shooting ability. I cleared the Chester and Gathering Open rounds of the UKAHFT series last year, came second at the Gathering itself and placed 11th overall in the series (only doing 7/9 rounds didn't help). hill billy - I've had several Ratties though my hands as projects and one thing is certain. You can spend a fortune on them but underneath all the add-ons it's still a cheapo Crosman. I owned one where the original builder spent nearly £500 - YES FIVE HUNDRED QUID on it in parts only. I paid £130 for it. Edited February 7, 2005 by 1 of 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hill billy Posted February 6, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2005 (edited) i think we had a bit of a cross wire and i was wrong thanks for your controbution Edited February 7, 2005 by hill billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul in North Lincs. Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 Grow up lad.......................... insulting valued members opinions is a sure way of getting your self removed from this forum................. If you knew all the answers, and were not prepared to take heed of any advise that was requested by your self at the start of the topic, then why bother asking the question in the first place.................... Its stupid, petty, immature, posts like yours, that spoil the forum for us folk with genuine interests, who are willing, and prepared to look at other peoples views. Paul in North Lincs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hill billy Posted February 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 (edited) i sent 1 0f 5 a pm saying that i was sorry because i have had a very rough week and i said some things i didn't mean Edited February 7, 2005 by hill billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul in North Lincs. Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 If you had posted a reply on the forum, similar to your personal pm to 1 of 5, then 'maybe' you wouldn't have left yourself 'wide open' for critisism............ from a third party. Paul in North Lincs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblade Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 jason, i nore many members on here dont know you, they only know you from what you say in your posts, and right now your posts are saying your a tottal ****! i pointed out the mistake you made in refering to the rifle as a pistol and asked you to edit you post and appologise as you were indeed incorrect in your description. yet for some reason you choose to ignore the fact that you were wrong. think the best idea would for you to edit all your offending posts and appologise, in public. ROB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 of 5 Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 I almost never even see I have a PM waiting for me, such is the way I have the board enabled so never actually read your pm. Had I read it I probably wouldn't have posted as I did so I'll offer an appology there. OTOH a public slagging and a private appology leaves a gap somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hill billy Posted February 7, 2005 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 i have edited my previous posts and will once again offer my appoligies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul in North Lincs. Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 'Fair Play' Hill Billy.............................At least you've had the nuts to apologise. Paul in North Lincs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1 of 5 Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 (edited) Edited my relevant bits too. Group hug Edited February 7, 2005 by 1 of 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblade Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 fair play mate ROB (see we not such a bad lot ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted February 7, 2005 Report Share Posted February 7, 2005 twas the right thing to do.let peace and harmony reign once more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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