BOLTA Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 12ftlbs is 12ftlbs whether it is .177 or .22. I nearly ****** my self in the local gun shop when I heard the son of the owner telling a woman in buying an air rifle for her son that .22 is more powerfull. If their is a risk of over penetration go for a head shot with .177 and you will kill the quarry for sure. Or better still just go for the head shot in the first place. Dave Hi, Sorry, to break in. You are quite right Devilishdave that 12 ft/lbs is 12 ft/lbs whether it is a .177 or a .22, no doubt about that. But normally the . 22 does have more energy left downrange and whats more important in killing it also makes a larger wound channel than .177 meaning more destruction in the quarry for a more cleaner kill if I may say so. But anyway whether you are shooting .177 or .22 you must hit the killzone correctly to get clean kills. Personal I prefer .22 over .177 for any form for hunting or pestcontrol because of larger wound channel. But the question about whats best of these two calibres will continue forever as long as we only stick to sub 12 ft/lbs guns. In fact, I would say and many others would say it too that sub 12 ft/lbs guns is not the best guns to use at field work going for such quarry like rabbits, woodies, squirrels and crows. They simply don´t have the necessary power to take such quarry clean out. A FAC gun have much more killing power in this regards and where sub 12 ft/lbs guns have problems taken quarry clean out of the game a FAC gun does not have these problems. Of course around buildings, barns and other dangerous places a sub 12 ft/lbs gun would be more ideal then a high power FAC gun but at field work I always prefer a FAC gun because of the higher killing power and a little more range these guns give you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Shootist Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 I was very tempted to look at the .20 Caliber but the TX isnt available in it and Pellet choice was gonna be limited. Lack of .20 pellet choice is an often quoted reason for not getting one by those who generally have never owned a .20 It may have been the case years ago but is no longer true with around twenty different types available these days. Not a huge choice by comparison to .177 and .22 but far more than is available for .25 Certainly enough to find a pellet that does the job for any .20 rifle. On a more general note. With any 12 ft lb rifle accuracy is the only reliable way to kill. Headshots precisely placed will do the job everytime. A rabbit doesn't really care whether the pellet thats just zipped thro it's brain is a .177, .20 or a .22... it's just as dead. Regards Tony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PEREGRINE Posted March 24, 2005 Report Share Posted March 24, 2005 For what its worth I have used all the callibers and for many years shot only .22 for hunting, that is until I went pro on pest control. For the next 12 years I shot only.177 needing the superior accuracy of the smaller calliber, providing the pellet is placed correctly shocking power is not an issue, if its not placed properly it doesent matter what calliber you use you will not achieve clean kills. I think dedicated .22 hunters as I was, would be suprised if they seriously tried a decent .177 for hunting, by seriously I mean at least a couple of seasons, that extra bit of speed the pellet has makes a lot of difference and you cannot beat the accuracy once you have confidence in the smaller calliber. Peregrine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steveo Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 Cant fault the .22. The .177 must be some calibre if it is easier to shoot then .22. My AA S410e shoots real flat, 1" holdover at 55yds when zeroed at 35. Close range shots are no problem either. The trajectory was real easy to work out. I have a friend who says he will never shoot with a .22 again since getting a .177 Daystate but i cant fault the stopping power and accuracy i am getting with the .22. I cant really see how sucha small pellet can do the same damage as a .22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 I know whare tne .22 championers are coming from but if your shot placement is below par you should not be shooting live animals. At 14 when shooting with m8s we would mock any one for taking a body shot or missing the head shot and puting it in the boddy. a rabbits head at 50m is not a small target now its eye that is starting to get a little specialised but to be honest 1/4 of an inch behind the eye is the best shot on a rabbit to drop it without a twitch. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sharp_shooter Posted May 3, 2005 Report Share Posted May 3, 2005 Check here The 9000+ members have spoken! If it was me, i'd get .177, i too was scepticle as to its killing power but i went for it anyway. Im SO pleased I did! So far i've achieved more clean kills than with the .22 i had. Message to mods: If this link breaks rules I do apologise, I think it provides helpful info on the matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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