dusk2dawn Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Watching the news tonight a young lad serving in Afgan had been struck in the helmet, he indicated the entry hole on the helmet with an orange tipped Ballistic round, As per my own expanding .223 ammo. My understanding is that the everyday military round is the 5.56 ball, obviously for "humanitarian" reasons. Perhaps some of you who have served recently could put me right on this? Rgds D2D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 sounds like a military tracer round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlie 1 Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 twas a 7.62mm round heres the article. man shot in helmet with a 7.62 round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hairyduck Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 It was a taliban round so it could have been almost anything that they could lay their hands on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 I think you have misunderstood the question. The guy was using the orange tipped round to point out the hole in the helmet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 It isn't a balistic tip, it is miltary tracer (I am sure of the boys will give us the part # ) they are painted red for indiification purposes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 like wot i said! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 those are 5.56mm above... the 7.62mm Tracer is the R284 http://www.inetres.com/gp/military/infantr...762mm_ammo.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusk2dawn Posted April 21, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 like wot i said! Excellent illustration, answered my question exactly, the round he used as a pointer was then a 5.56 tracer. The tip has the appearance of my .223 ballistic tip rounds exactly, hence my original question. So if his helmet had been penetrated by a tracer round he would not have survived? Begs the question why are we using tracer rounds against the Talitubbys, when I take it they are designed to fragmentate on impact as is a ballistic tip round? Rgds D2D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 I think it was reported as a 7.62 Tracer is only the same as FMJ but with a phosphourus insert in the back that lights up after about 100 or so yards, it doesn't behave any differently apart from that I think they normally load them in 1 in 2 or 1 in 4 (1 tracer to 4 fmj) but the military boys can give more info. They will also have at least a dozen accronyms that could be inserted into their replies as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 i don't think he was shot by a tracer, he's just using one as a pointer. It's standard practise to use one tracer in every 5 on a GPMG for aiming purposes. They don't fragment like a ballistic - they have the same properties as standard ball ammo - that's only paint on the round to show it's a tracer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beardo Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 hahah snap! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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