Nicky T Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 We were lucky enough to try the new ABT layout at Worsley today and all i can say is OMG how hard is that!!!!! Definitely not for the faint hearted but made a very pleasant change from the norm. Just wondered if anyone here shoots ABT and what their top tips are for improving at it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 I am no expert my best is 20 of 25 but some of the guys I have shot with are very good. First of all relax, close your eyes whilst the others are shooting and dont even pay atention whether they hit or not. Visulise it coming out all differnt ways and you quickly getting on to the target and killing it. When it is your turn point the gun where you expect the clay to come out or just above it if you are realy struggling with the speed of it. When the clay comes move the barrels quickly on to it and as soon as the bead touches the clay squeeze the trigger and keep the gun moving. Beware if it pops straight up infront of you dont go to fast or you might shoot over the top, same as anything it is all about practice. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW80 Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 (edited) My uncle was irish champion twice on ABT and his biggest tip to me was don't try to shoot it with a sport gun , always use a trap gun!! oh and by the way he still rates ABT as harder than OT! Edited May 3, 2009 by GW80 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisecobandit Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 I beg to differ on the "use a trap gun" statement tbh.Try shooting the low flatter birds with a trap gun you'll shoot over the top of them. I used to shoot it with my trap gun but achieve better scores with my sporter.I just use my trap gun for DTL now. Like Dave said dont panick and rush birds.Let them leave the trap and see where and what direction they are going in before you move the gun to them and pull the trigger as you swing past them.Use the same gun hold position as DTL. The main reason from what i see ppl miss is they move the gun before they know what way the clays going and end up swinging the gun in the wrong direction then having to change it. This may sound daft but i dont even watch my mates shoot there birds!After my shot i just empty the cartridge/s and look down at my broken gun and twiddle with my fresh cartridges and align the writing on them neatly whilst they are in the chamber.I just wait for the voice of the team member before me to shout pull,wait for his shot then close my gun ready to shoot again! I quite lucky as i shoot with pretty much the same squad and we all know how each other work etc and know who's shooting by voice of "pull" Not saying it will work for you but it works for me.I tend to average around 85 ex 100 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GW80 Posted May 3, 2009 Report Share Posted May 3, 2009 it look's like horses for coures, my uncle who is a trap shooter always will go for a trap gun over a sporter in any trap discipline where the bird is going away from you, he has shoot the same perazzi now for 24 years, but will only shoot beretta's in sporting and skeet because he reckons they are faster handling guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter De La Mare Posted May 4, 2009 Report Share Posted May 4, 2009 I've done two rounds of ABT, both at Northants. First 25 was directly into bright sunlight, didn't hit much.. 12/25 I think. Second 25 was at the PW Daddy competition and the conditions were much better, 21/25 (or 20/25 I can't recall). I think I had 12 first barrel and 8 or 9 second barrels. Hold point for me was 6" below the horizon of the trap house in the middle. Then it's basic Sporting rules in a way, they're either going away flat up to 45 degrees left/right, or jumping up like a good teal or rising in which case you snap through it and pull the trigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richg Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 My top tip for ABT is to master DTL first before moving up. By mastering DTL, and i mean shooting 23 or better consistently, you will then have learned the basics of stance,gun mount,call and swing. All these must be imprinted in your brain, as ABT is very unforgiving if your technique is not spot on. Do not watch the previous guns target because yours will be different, and DO NOT MOVE untill your target appears. Once you know which way it is going, all that is required is a swift accelerated swing through the target. Also you have more time than you think. To shoot good scores you need technique, confidence and practice, lots of practice. But above all you must be driven by the pursuit of excellence, allways looking for that perfect round. Fail to do this and you will never realize your full potential. Watch the top guns shoot, their routine never alters and their focus is absolute. Good Shooting. PS. I have shot DTL for England and many many 25 straights at ABT, all with my Remi Auto with 1/2 choke. I never felt the need for a trap gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky T Posted May 5, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Thanks for the advice. Definitely going to shoot some mroe ABT in the future but for now its Sporting for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LXX73 Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 If your planning shooting again at Worsley give me a holla, wouldn't mind checking it out myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nicky T Posted May 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 If your planning shooting again at Worsley give me a holla, wouldn't mind checking it out myself. Definitely will do once its properly up and running. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyr8 Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 i hate ABT,could shoot skeet and DTL and come of feeling pleased with myself then go on to ABT and end up screaming.i was going to buy a dog on the strength of it so i could go home and kick it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wookie Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 ABT is hilarious fun! Ok, it's frustrating, but fun. That said, I think I need to use full and full on it to increase my chances of a second barrel kill, but hey ho. I still prefer skeet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sometimes Posted May 6, 2009 Report Share Posted May 6, 2009 I have shot ABT a couple of times and find it much easier than Sporting clays, or is that just me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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