sharpshot Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 One thing I wouldn't do is buy a .222. They are on the way out, not quite as much poke as .223, and increasingly limited rifle choice. There is no situation that a .222 does that a .223 doesn't do as well or better, so why pick the triple? would just like to ask about the above. where did you get this information that the .222 is on the way out? if you believe that then youll belive anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Compare sales of .222 with .223 in the current climate... .223 is the main .22 CF round, followed by .22-250. Right now, .222 has a strong following, with many enthusiasts, and a lot of people who stick up for it because they own one. I can understand that, they are similar enough that if I had a .222 I wouldn't sell it, and I would likely defend it. They are accurate, they do work, they do stop foxes to similar ranges as the .223. But components and ammo are much more widely available for .223. Rifles are more widely available for .223. Give it some time, and the .222 will surely be relegated from mainstream through to enthusiast only, through to 'the odd one around somewhere'. Might not happen overnight due to the following it already has, but what's keeping it around nowadays? Going by Hodgdon's figures, for both .222 and .223, you get roughly 200fps more in a .223, for 2.5 grains more powder. That seems worth it to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nicholiath Posted August 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 So my advice would be this - do you want to shoot foxes well and annihilate bunnies, or do you want to be about right for long range bunnies, and have medium-range, fair conditions fox capability? I think this is the answer from Mr logic. I encounter far more long range bunnies than foxes so the Hornet seems more appropriate as well as more suitable for my terrain being in the flatlands of Lincolnshire when considering backstops and distances that high velocity rounds travel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plinker Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Compare sales of .222 with .223 in the current climate... .223 is the main .22 CF round, followed by .22-250. Right now, .222 has a strong following, with many enthusiasts, and a lot of people who stick up for it because they own one. I can understand that, they are similar enough that if I had a .222 I wouldn't sell it, and I would likely defend it. They are accurate, they do work, they do stop foxes to similar ranges as the .223. But components and ammo are much more widely available for .223. Rifles are more widely available for .223. Give it some time, and the .222 will surely be relegated from mainstream through to enthusiast only, through to 'the odd one around somewhere'. Might not happen overnight due to the following it already has, but what's keeping it around nowadays? Going by Hodgdon's figures, for both .222 and .223, you get roughly 200fps more in a .223, for 2.5 grains more powder. That seems worth it to me! and which components would you be talking about? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plinker Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 270 can be used for fox all deer and boar if you have them. the chances of getting it just for fox are slim. 22/250 is best fox cal imo flat as a pancake and at night that works well. add a good maod and its no louder then 222 and 223. jamie have you got something wrong with your hearing mate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 Mainly cases, main point there was loaded ammo. Fine a lot of us reload, but plenty don't - those people may struggle for ammo with .222. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plinker Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 no probs getting brass, are you sure you are not getting confused with 222 rem mag or some other obscure round.you can also get factory in all the shops i have been in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted August 28, 2009 Report Share Posted August 28, 2009 jamie have you got something wrong with your hearing mate? what what what ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 jamie have you got something wrong with your hearing mate?:yp: Don`t bother asking him he`s too busy buying another new barrel for his 22-250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 no probs getting brass, are you sure you are not getting confused with 222 rem mag or some other obscure round.you can also get factory in all the shops i have been in. I'm going by the **** End of the Earth, or Berkshire as it's also known. We can't get **** round here! even 223 stuff is tricky. Forget .222, ammo or brass! It's right pain tbh, EVERYWHERE I go is better than here :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted August 30, 2009 Report Share Posted August 30, 2009 I'm going by the **** End of the Earth, or Berkshire as it's also known. We can't get **** round here! even 223 stuff is tricky. Forget .222, ammo or brass! It's right pain tbh, EVERYWHERE I go is better than here :blink: Fair point there Mr.L , up here the .222 is fine for lowland stalking and foxing anywhere and as such is widely distributed so I can see that other areas such as the populous SE of England will have to have, by law, larger calibres to do the 2 jobs and as such .243/6mm and up will be the tool of choice and the carts/brass/heads will be more readily available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry mac Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 click the quote button and it goes to minus, then click Add Reply (not fast reply) and the quoted text will appear in your reply Thanks for that, it was puzzling me as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poorwullie Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 As there are helpful people on this thread, anyone know how the ranking-rating system works? Like the little bit next to your name saying newbie pigeon shooter etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lez325 Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 As there are helpful people on this thread, anyone know how the ranking-rating system works? Like the little bit next to your name saying newbie pigeon shooter etc? goes by the number of posts you make fella Les Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted September 15, 2009 Report Share Posted September 15, 2009 (edited) Don`t bother asking him he`s too busy buying another new barrel for his 22-250 :good: push it fast mate thats what its for. going 22br ai after that Edited September 16, 2009 by jamie g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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