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Harv, the USO scope looks superb. How do you rate the glass against the Leupold Mk4 (that I remember you defended so keenly)?

 

Bob, was the the Weapons Effect Demonstration at Lulworth? I watched it once when I was a child, but it had been phased out (as a frivolous cost) by the time I started in green.

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Harv, the USO scope looks superb. How do you rate the glass against the Leupold Mk4 (that I remember you defended so keenly)?

 

Bob, was the the Weapons Effect Demonstration at Lulworth? I watched it once when I was a child, but it had been phased out (as a frivolous cost) by the time I started in green.

 

 

yes mate. i think i done the third from last ever demo at lulworth, there was a few more smaller ones done at warminster that included the a10 thunderbolt and the harrier gr6, but i was all but done then, i had gone to liverpool for a training coures as part of my demob,

 

loved it most of the time, but the best times where in batus, British army training unit suffield ( Canada) live fire all the time. a instructors dream come true.

 

bob.

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Normally heaving it down with rain whenever we went to Sennelager ranges. I much preferred playing with the Honest Johns on Hohne. If it was raining at least I was sat in the Command Post DRY.

 

Bob, good answer but I also had a lot of experience with firearms in the forces and learned a damned sight more once I came out. In fact as an RO at a club a few years back the worst nightmare was training up new members who were ex-squaddies.

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yo baldrick,

 

you have the memory of an elephant my friend, the uso is quite something it ticks the boxes in all areas especially the build quality(even you couldnt break it), the leupolds are fragile in comparison.optically there aint much in it i would say the uso at low light but probably the leupold on clarity at distance.the eye releif on the uso is far more forgiving and the illuminated ret is the best ive seen.

i cant see me ever changing back to the leupold and would only part with the st10 if a uso variable t-pal became available.

 

harv

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if i can remember we used over 40.000 round of ammo in a fire power demo in lulworth cove.

 

I hope you meant Lulworth Ranges!

 

I have a Sauer 90 in .270 and a Steyr SSG in .308.

 

The Steyr is as accurate as I can imagine, half MOA with Norma factory loads, but the bolt jams on fired RWS ammo, the lugs being at the rear of the bolt.

The Sauer bolt is the smoothest of any of my 4 rifles.

I think I would choose a Steyr in any calibre, due to the way my SSG shoots, terrible grip, though, for the shovels I have on the end of my arms.

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Normally heaving it down with rain whenever we went to Sennelager ranges. I much preferred playing with the Honest Johns on Hohne. If it was raining at least I was sat in the Command Post DRY.

 

Bob, good answer but I also had a lot of experience with firearms in the forces and learned a damned sight more once I came out. In fact as an RO at a club a few years back the worst nightmare was training up new members who were ex-squaddies.

 

very true Dave.

 

I am very lucky to have good mates and good contacts in the shooting fraternity, i too had to learn a lot but since i have been out the army for 20 years i have had plenty of time to do just that, i was also into air guns and worked on them for years, but then got into ham radio and then back into rifles,

 

i still miss it Dave, those blood covered knuckles from loading the old chieftain ( battel run 9 Hohne the Canadian army trophy shoots) and those scary moments when loading the rarden cannon waiting to see if you still have all your fingers, 1 ? 2? 3? 4? ooohhhh shoot wheres number 5 gone. :good:

 

 

bob.

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I hope you meant Lulworth Ranges!

 

I have a Sauer 90 in .270 and a Steyr SSG in .308.

 

The Steyr is as accurate as I can imagine, half MOA with Norma factory loads, but the bolt jams on fired RWS ammo, the lugs being at the rear of the bolt.

The Sauer bolt is the smoothest of any of my 4 rifles.

I think I would choose a Steyr in any calibre, due to the way my SSG shoots, terrible grip, though, for the shovels I have on the end of my arms.

 

 

defo on the ranges /;0 /;0.

 

as for my steyr i love it to bits, both the .223 and the .243 are spot on and shoot better than me.

 

bob.

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I've now bought one, got the cz 527 varmint with a 26" barrell and a 1 in 12" twist. Also bought a wildcat predator 8 sound mod for it and going to put a hawke sindwinder from my .22 on the top as I think that wAs a big big for the small anschutz and get a new scope for that. Not taken it home yet as thames valley have got my ticket so they can correct it. What do you guys think of my choice? Good or should I make any changes? (I do have time to alter things as they are ordering in the mod and said I can still change my mind on the rifle)

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If it were me I'd get an ASE moderator as they're better for the lamp, but I have as P8 and they're pretty good. Otherwise I think you made a pretty good choice. Make sure that someone, them or you, gets that trigger nice before you shoot it though!

 

As for scopes, I'd get something other than a Hawke on there ASAP, but with new guns there's never much money after a rifle and moderator, so can understand if that has to wait a bit!

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very true Dave.

 

I am very lucky to have good mates and good contacts in the shooting fraternity, i too had to learn a lot but since i have been out the army for 20 years i have had plenty of time to do just that, i was also into air guns and worked on them for years, but then got into ham radio and then back into rifles,

 

i still miss it Dave, those blood covered knuckles from loading the old chieftain ( battel run 9 Hohne the Canadian army trophy shoots) and those scary moments when loading the rarden cannon waiting to see if you still have all your fingers, 1 ? 2? 3? 4? ooohhhh shoot wheres number 5 gone. :D

 

 

bob.

 

Or on guard at night in the middle of the ulu at the end of a track when there's an almighty scuffling in the undergrowth coming towards you. And the relief from an almost pants filled squaddie when a family of pigs crosses the track 10 yards away. Or finding out that your mate has gone for a dump in the middle of winter and done it in his Parka hood ................................. and didn't find out til he put the hood up.

 

Oh Yes i miss it all. :yes::D

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Or on guard at night in the middle of the ulu at the end of a track when there's an almighty scuffling in the undergrowth coming towards you. And the relief from an almost pants filled squaddie when a family of pigs crosses the track 10 yards away. Or finding out that your mate has gone for a dump in the middle of winter and done it in his Parka hood ................................. and didn't find out til he put the hood up.

 

Oh Yes i miss it all. :good::yes:

 

that has just made my day Dave.

 

how about all those Benghazi's burning in the back ground and those boys who have just had 1 to many falling through the undergrowth, and then having to get up on the Sunday morning for church parade on saltau in the winter.

 

bob.

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that has just made my day Dave.

 

how about all those Benghazi's burning in the back ground and those boys who have just had 1 to many falling through the undergrowth, and then having to get up on the Sunday morning for church parade on saltau in the winter.

 

bob.

 

Or being camped on the range, getting wrecked and going out pig hunting with pointed sticks. Then getting one and putting it's head on top of the flagpole.

 

or stealing the Battery Commanders favourite flask and throwing it down the latrine. Got the whole Battery grounded for a week did that one. BC was a k n o b bead anyway and it was a Staff Sergeant that did it.

 

Or the best one ever, going up to Hamburg for the weekend and losing a WOII for a week. He was found in the St. Pauli district a very happy man.

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