mpk Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Hi guys , just got back from my new house after trying to fix my cabinet . Im using the usuall m10 wall anchors and as usuall they are being a pain . I have had enough now and as this is going to be a permanent residance i would like to use some sort of resin and stud combination . I only have a few days so has anybody used anything like this that has worked. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Yes I used resin - it's really easy. We have old stone walls and it can be a bit crumbly or rock hard - pot luck when you drill. You need resin and studs (buy the proper ones, if you try to cut threaded rod the end is sharp and hard to bolt on to). I used this resin http://www.screwfix.com/prods/25733/Fixing...ion-Resin-150ml and these studs http://www.screwfix.com/prods/45436/Fixing...10mm-Pack-of-10 Just make sure you drill the hole the correct size and depth. Clean the hole out with the hoover - better than the brushes/balloon type pump you can get. Just watch for the studs sagging in the holes - I used 1/4 matchsticks to keep the studs central. You don't need to brim fill the holes of you'll have resin all over the place. Dead easy, quick and very secure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 (edited) i would like to use some sort of resin and stud combination You need the resin that's used for bonding wall ties. The new stuff comes in a sealed tube, but you need a purpose designed gun, this mixes the resin, since it's in two separate compartments inside the tube. Excellent stuff, sets like granite, http://www.triton-chemicals.co.uk/prodc1.php BJ. Edited September 21, 2010 by Bazooka Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJT Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 give these a call in the morning i use them for all my fixings they will have something http://www.blakesoffarnham.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted September 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Yes I used resin - it's really easy. We have old stone walls and it can be a bit crumbly or rock hard - pot luck when you drill. You need resin and studs (buy the proper ones, if you try to cut threaded rod the end is sharp and hard to bolt on to). I used this resin http://www.screwfix.com/prods/25733/Fixing...ion-Resin-150ml and these studs http://www.screwfix.com/prods/45436/Fixing...10mm-Pack-of-10 Just make sure you drill the hole the correct size and depth. Clean the hole out with the hoover - better than the brushes/balloon type pump you can get. Just watch for the studs sagging in the holes - I used 1/4 matchsticks to keep the studs central. You don't need to brim fill the holes of you'll have resin all over the place. Dead easy, quick and very secure. You need the resin that's used for bonding wall ties. The new stuff comes in a sealed tube, but you need a purpose designed gun, this mixes the resin, since it's in two separate compartments inside the tube. Excellent stuff, sets like granite, http://www.triton-chemicals.co.uk/prodc1.php BJ. looks good , How much of this resin did you need . It will be nice to not have to mess around with wall anchors. Cheers for the replies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Iv got a hammer drill if you wanna lend it? saves wearing out your tooth brush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Failing that I can lend you a Kango and a compressor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 looks good , How much of this resin did you need . It will be nice to not have to mess around with wall anchors. Cheers for the replies Just the one tube for 6 holes and had ~half left! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted September 21, 2010 Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 looks good , How much of this resin did you need . It will be nice to not have to mess around with wall anchors. Cheers for the replies One tube is enough, if fact you'll do half a dozen cabinets with it. Your problem is the gun, pity you didn't live closer. Apaches links maybe better in your case BJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted September 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 One tube is enough, if fact you'll do half a dozen cabinets with it. Your problem is the gun, pity you didn't live closer. Apaches links maybe better in your case BJ. Shame cheers forn the offer though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted September 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 give these a call in the morning i use them for all my fixings they will have something http://www.blakesoffarnham.com/ Cheers for that mate, Im assuming there close? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted September 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 21, 2010 Iv got a hammer drill if you wanna lend it? saves wearing out your tooth brush Failing that I can lend you a Kango and a compressor I have drilled the holes just getting fed up with mucking about getting the bolts fitted correctly, I walked away from it earlier before i ripped half the plaster of the walls. I think im going to go with resin as im not planning to move again for a long time and if i do i will just drill them out and fill the holes, How did you and mjt fit yours ? Cheers for all the replys. Pigeon watch really is like smarties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJT Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 Cheers for that mate, Im assuming there close? There at Alton but will send the fixings to you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted September 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 There at Alton but will send the fixings to you Just had a look at there site , they stock alot dont they. Cheers for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 (edited) I used some sort of liquid polyester. As Bazooka Joe said, it came in a pump tube that had a corkscrew type nozzle which mixed two chemicals together. I over drilled the mounting holes, squirted in the resin and then inserted pre-cut lengths of threaded rod. My top tips: 1. if you get resin on the threaded rod, it won't thread i.e. you won't get the nut on it, along it or down it. 2. the resin goes off *really* quickly - we are talking minutes at best - this is worth bearing in mind when considering (1) above and (3) below 3. if you leave too much threaded rod hanging out the wall, then the angle of insertion into the wall becomes amplified i.e. if you don't get the rod in dead center, and it's on the wonk, then the further you come down/along the threaded rod, the more the rod goes out of alignment - this means that the rod you have chemically bonded into the wall will not meet the holes / mounting points in the cabinet itself. 4. if you try and "trim" the lengths of threaded rod hanging out of the wall with an angle grinder, be careful not to set the carpet on fire. Edited September 22, 2010 by Mungler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 (edited) I used some sort of liquid polyester. As Bazooka Joe said, it came in a pump tube that had a corkscrew type nozzle which mixed two chemicals together. I over drilled the mounting holes, squirted in the resin and then inserted pre-cut lengths of threaded rod. My top tips: 1. if you get resin on the threaded rod, it won't thread i.e. you won't get the nut on it, along it or down it. 2. the resin goes off *really* quickly - we are talking minutes at best - this is worth bearing in mind when considering (1) above and (3) below 3. if you leave too much threaded rod hanging out the wall, then the angle of insertion into the wall becomes amplified i.e. if you don't get the rod in dead center, and it's on the wonk, then the further you come down/along the threaded rod, the more the rod goes out of alignment - this means that the rod you have chemically bonded into the wall will not meet the holes / mounting points in the cabinet itself. 4. if you try and "trim" the lengths of threaded rod hanging out of the wall with an angle grinder, be careful not to set the carpet on fire. I will add a top tip from the trade secret manual to my learned friends list. If you position the cabinet over the holes before filling them with resin and the push the threaded rod through the holes in the back it will save you having to try and line them up while the resin is going off. You can also get the resin in pouches that you push in the hole and then burst open with the rod, it then cures and holds them fast. LIKE THESE Edited September 22, 2010 by MC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 What sort of walls do you have? If they're solid block and you're just having issues with the anchors turning then try those bolts that just screw straight into the concrete. You just drill a hole and screw them in. Job done. I think the ones I used had a pull out strength of 250kg each, so to move my cabinet you would have to apply over a ton and a half of force?! You could hang a family car from it in other words! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpk Posted September 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 (edited) Well that was the easiest cabinet move i have ever done , I will never be using wall anchors again resin is the only way ( Thanks apache ) Popped down the local screw fix and picked up some m10 studs and bolts and some resin. All in all it cost me about £8.00 and i still have enough to do another two cabinets at least . Its really simple to just a question of drilling the holes and offering up the cabinet , i then filled them with the resin slid the studs in so i knew that they would be fine once hardened. Once they are hard there really is no way off moving them . I left it for an hour to make sure all hardening had been done. Bolted the cabinet on and me and the missus were both hanging off it with our feet on the wall and i weigh 15 1/2 stone. A few piccs just for the sake of it. Cheers for all the advice Oh and were my finger stops is the amount that is sticking out of the wall so all the rest is in the hole , There is definetly no way of moving it Edited September 22, 2010 by mpk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispti Posted September 22, 2010 Report Share Posted September 22, 2010 I have drilled the holes just getting fed up with mucking about getting the bolts fitted correctly, I walked away from it earlier before i ripped half the plaster of the walls. I think im going to go with resin as im not planning to move again for a long time and if i do i will just drill them out and fill the holes, How did you and mjt fit yours ? Cheers for all the replys. Pigeon watch really is like smarties I used B&Q anchor bolts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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