alicob1 Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 I have just got some new land to shoot pigeons on and there is two road on the boundry, I was wondering if i set up facing the road how far away I have to be to shoot so no shot will land on the road. Hope you can help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 I have just got some new land to shoot pigeons on and there is two road on the boundry, I was wondering if i set up facing the road how far away I have to be to shoot so no shot will land on the road. Hope you can help. With no 6 shot, about 250m. With a safety margin about 300m should see you right. Will be further if you use a bigger shot size. Gauge makes no odds, twill be the same from a 20g or a .410 for that matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicob1 Posted October 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 With no 6 shot, about 250m. With a safety margin about 300m should see you right. Will be further if you use a bigger shot size. Gauge makes no odds, twill be the same from a 20g or a .410 for that matter. I tend to use no 6 shot 30 or 32 gram does the gram make any difference and is there any laws on shooting towards a road Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 link to a good previous thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted October 25, 2010 Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 I tend to use no 6 shot 30 or 32 gram does the gram make any difference and is there any laws on shooting towards a road The weight of the total charge of shot in grams (or ounces!) Makes no odds. It's the weight and size of the individual pellets and their velocity which dictates how far the shot travels. Highways act prevents you shooting within 50 ft (about 15m) of a road, if by doing so you cause injury or hindrance (or some such arcane wording). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alicob1 Posted October 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2010 The weight of the total charge of shot in grams (or ounces!) Makes no odds. It's the weight and size of the individual pellets and their velocity which dictates how far the shot travels. Highways act prevents you shooting within 50 ft (about 15m) of a road, if by doing so you cause injury or hindrance (or some such arcane wording). Thanks everyone fab site this cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 According to range saftey layouts a no 6 wont travel further than 300 yrds or 275 m. larger shot will go further. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snozzer Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 The weight of the total charge of shot in grams (or ounces!) Makes no odds. It's the weight and size of the individual pellets and their velocity which dictates how far the shot travels. Highways act prevents you shooting within 50 ft (about 15m) of a road, if by doing so you cause injury or hindrance (or some such arcane wording). Read that wording at Highwats Act and Amended Higways Act 161.discharges any firearm or firework within 50 feet of the centre of such a highway, and in consequence a user of the highway is injured, interrupted or endangered, that person is guilty of an offence and liable to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.] You commit no offence discharging a firearm within 50 feet of the centre of a highway. You only commit an offence if someone is injured, interrupted or endangered. The highways act does not apply to footpaths or bridleways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Read that wording at Highwats Act and Amended Higways Act You commit no offence discharging a firearm within 50 feet of the centre of a highway. You only commit an offence if someone is injured, interrupted or endangered. The highways act does not apply to footpaths or bridleways Sorry to be a pain but a footpath and a bridleway are both highways, as is a road used as a public path (RUPP) - different types, but highways nevertheless. Who maintains footpaths? The local Highway Authority. I would say that (almost certainly) the law regarding the 50 foot rule applies to ALL highways. I'm not aware of case law on this point and its true that 'roads' are the most important category of highway. The most important being 'special road motorways'. Anyone have any details - I'll research the 50 ft rule and classification of Highways in detail, if not ? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 (edited) 1 Edited October 26, 2010 by Kes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 I don't know is the answer, but for Clay shoots the fallout is suggested at 300 yards. This will give a safety margin allowing for wind and angle, but using relatively light shot! If you have a heavy load and tailwind I suspect you will get close to this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 Good info on shooting near highway in this BASC guide...(in summary 50ft from the centre of a highway comprised of a carriageway- which means public right of way for vehicles ie not footpaths across private land etc. check it out yourself here.. BASC guide (England and Wales) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 I think you missed 'carriageway' from your previous post on this subject. You are however right about footpahs and bridleway, despite them being highways -Highways Act 1980 as amended. It is an offence under the Highways Act 1980 s 161(2) to light any fire on or over a carriageway, or discharge any firearm or firework within 50 feet of the centre of a highway which is a carriageway, with the consequence that a user of the carriageway is injured, interrupted or endangered. The section applies to rights of way over which there are vehicular rights, e.g. ways shown on the definitive map as byways open to all traffic, but not to footpaths and bridleways. This extract is from the ramblers association guidance to ramblers . Cheers Kes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 I think you missed 'carriageway' from your previous post on this subject. Cheers Kes Not sure whether that was regarding my post above..if so I think you are getting mixed up with someone elses post? HW682 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted October 26, 2010 Report Share Posted October 26, 2010 (edited) Anyone have any details - I'll research the 50 ft rule and classification of Highways in detail, if not ? do a search, its been covered every month for a good few tears.and years. Edited October 26, 2010 by markbivvy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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