Steve29

Pleasure doing business with you and your dad andy. Nice gun, just what i was after, looking forward tothe weekend so i can have a go! And thank your dad for the magazines! Cracking bloke. Cheers again Steve

Very interested. You have pm

You have pm

Hi all, I’m toying with the idea of training my 20 month old lab, Jack, to pick up for me when out pigeon decoying. I never had any intention of training him up as a retriever as I didn’t get into decoying until after I got him, he is just our pet, but a mate and I took him out while rough shooting last week and he loved it. I walked him on the lead about 10m behind my mate who was shooting. He flinched at the shot the first few times, but didn’t bother after that and kept a keen eye on everything that was going on. So now I’m thinking about getting him trained up as it would be good for him and will save me dismantling my hide to pick up! He’s only ever been taught basic voice commands (by me and the mrs) like sit, stay, heel, lay down, come back and leave but he has them nailed. He also loves to play ‘fetch’! He can sometimes play deaf if he doesn’t like what I’m saying but in general is well behaved. My plan is to get a few dummies, a pistol and some blanks, then start small and easy by just getting him to fetch the dummies in the garden at first. Then I plan to move the game to the field, set up my hide and chuck them out from there, short distances at first then longer. Then progress to adding decoys, using the pistol, wings stuck to the dummies, dead birds, and so on. Does this method seem about right? I am a complete novice as Jack is my first dog, but I plan to do this myself or not at all so any tips or advice would be very well received. Cheers Steve

Could affect you lot from Norfolk and Suffolk, unlikely to be as many peas to look after! http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8497147.stm

Not sure why people feel the need to comment on asking prices of guns, I thought only people who are genuinely interested in buying were supposed to comment on these threads? I appreciate that you don't want fellow forum users to get ripped off, but there is nothing in the forum rules that say you have to state an asking price that is in line with that of other available models! I don't see a problem with anyone chancing their arm, it's up to the buyer to satisfy themselves that they are getting a good deal. Just wanted to share my thoughts, no insult intended to anyone, I realise there are good intentions behind the posts.

Thanks, but like I said, im not in the market just yet. why can't you afford the 687? If you already own it, surely you just have cartridge costs and the occasional scrub up to pay for, so no different to your lanber? :unsure:

:unsure: My thoughts exactly, i'm used to getting knocked about a bit playing rugby so can handle the extra felt recoil. Might blacken me up a bit on clays but only really do more than 50 in one go twice, maybe three times a year. I'd love one, so get in touch if you do! Be at least six months before i've cobbled the cash together though. Good to hear what everyone has to say, at least confirms i'm looking around on the right lines. Interesting to see that no one mentioned Bettinsoli Diamond, Yildiz SPZME, Webley 912, Lincoln Premier, etc? Steve

This is really a theoretical situation as I'm not in this position yet, but hopefully will be in the next 6 months or so. It would just be interesting to hear your thoughts. If you had £700 - £800 quid to spend on a shotgun which met all of the following criteria, what would you buy? - 12 gauge O/U - 3 inch chambers - Multi choke - 28-30 inch barrel - reasonably light Basically i'm after one gun to suit all situations as I do a lot of rough/pigeon shooting, some driven game and some clay shooting.

I've had both and .22 is definitely my preferred for vermin control. IMO .177 for target shooting, .22 for the real deal.

I think if it had been 10 minutes in then I would have reminded him that we were doing nothing wrong, we were on private land with permission, had a job to do, and would have to gracefully decline his invitation to pack up. To be fair to him he did see we were in the process of clearing up, so probably just decided to give us a nudge and made it sound like his idea!

Wanted to add an experience of the police handling a situation well seeing as we mostly only hear about situations they handle badly. My mate and I were out on a roost shoot yesterday in an area of woodland not a million miles away from the village where I live. The woodland runs up either side of a track, its starts in the village and ends at the farm which is about a mile away. Anyway, we always set off from my old mans house in the village, and walk up the track to our 'safe' point before unsheathing the guns. We have two strict rules, we never take the guns out before this point, even though it is well outside of the minimum safe distance from roads, buildings, etc, and we never shoot in the direction of the village. After getting the guns out we usually continue to walk up the track and pick a spot to shoot from, but yesterday the pigeon were all over a beet field right near our safe spot so we got set in and started dropping the birds. About 2 hours, 75 cartridges and 14 birds later (they were very high and very fast, that's my story and i'm sticking to it!) we decided to call it a night and just at that moment we spotted a bobby walking up the track. He said hello and said they had received a complaint about shot falling on a house in the village, which I had to point out was rubbish as we hadn't shot in that direction, and even though the wind was blowing that way I couldn't credit shot was travelling that far in the opposite direction. He took that on board, explained that he had to follow the complaint up which we accepted, took our details and asked us to call it a day, which we were happy to do as we were already packing up, then went on his way. Although this experience should just be the norm I thought I would share in any case. I was very impressed with the way the whole thing was handled and take my hat off to the bobby. It was my first experience of having to deal with them and I have to say when i saw him walking up the track I was petrified after hearing all the nightmare stories! Just goes to show they're not all bad! The only thing thats pi**ed me off about the whole encouter is the fact that the complaint was made in the first place! We must have disturbed someones afternoon in front of the tele!

How do you wear ear defenders and hear pigs in the woods still? I have an odd noise in both my ears constantly, sounds like a quiter version of rain on a conservatory roof! When I first noticed it it was that bad I had to leave the telly on so I could fall to sleep. Now its much better and I ALWAYS wear ear defenders as I don't want it getting worse. Something I have been told is that your hearing can still be damaged if you use the in-ear type hearing protection as the noise can damage your hearing by penetrating around your ear. Not sure how much truth there is in that but it makes sense, so I always wear full ear defenders. Can't be too careful!

Would just like to add that Paul is a top bloke My mate and I went a couple of weeks ago and he picked up a lovely AYA sxs non-ejector for a bargain price. We pop in every now and again to see what he's got in stock. Wish all 'toy'shops were as welcoming!

"One shot, one kill" More a principal I live by than a tip!

Saw that gun a few weeks back. Only thing that put my mate off was the sling studs, you either love em or hate em. We're off to see him tomorrow so hopefully pick up something nice!

Its only too low if you haven't got you what you want for them!

Not at all, i'm able to hear if they hit but don't kill. As I only ever take head shots they either tend to miss or kill outright. Obviously on the odd occasion one does go amiss and hit the body, but I pride myself in keeping that to an absolute minimum.

Anyone has a silenced .410 they would like to sell please let me know, preferably 3" chamber but will consider 2.5".

Does that mean you have one you want to get rid of?

The question is in the title. I've read from only 15yds up to 40yds! I use a sub 12ftlb air rifle for bunny bashing at the moment, but lets just say I miss more than I hit, so considering buying a silenced .410, but can't find a lot of info on the killing range. How does it compare to a .22 air rifle? Cheers EDIT: I realise it depends on the load used as well, so advice on the best and their ranges would also be useful.

I found these which will hopefully do the trick. Had some stuff off the seller before and it's been reasonable quality for the price. Thanks for all your help.

Cheers again Mick. One last question to anyone who has bought this ki;. I would prefer to get a fixed mount rather than the velcro ones as I have read a post above that said that the mounts aren't high enough to reach over a 50mm objective, which I have. So, can you please let me know the diameter of the torch body? Is it the standard 25mm/1inch? Thanks Steve

I have a Webley Stingray XS carbine .22 break barrel spring rifle and would recommend it. It's moderated, costs about £250, scope is extra which you need because it does not have open sights fitted (mines fitted with a Hawke Sport thanks to Bluesunshine :blink: ). My mate has a Weirauch and its also a good spring rifle for dropping bunnies, but more expensive and heavier. Happy shopping