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Ah - thanks Axe.
I tried something not to far from that the other day. They were rather good.
I filleted the bunny, and added two filleted lamb chops to the mix along with a fried onion, a slice of fried bread, a teaspoonful of garlic puree, a handful of corriander leaves and salt and pepper.
I was very pleasd with the result - rather like and good quality burger. Doing some more tomorrow when the rabbit is defrosted. I've been a bit lazy lately and just dropped the paunched bunnies in the freezer in a black bag 'avec' skin, feet and head... LOL. Don't know about you lot, but I don't always have th time to peel and wash them right away, and have had a few go very off before I got to them. This way, Ijust defrost overnight in the garage and do the job when convenient.
Thanks again for the info Axe. I must have twenty bunnies in the freezer and nee to get them eaten.
Further to another of our conversations about using the rabbits up. I'm swapping some to a guy who fishes, but doesn't eat the rainbow trout he catches. Luckily for me, he's been buying Chinese farmed rabbits and is more than happy to trade....
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For the record, I tend to brew IPA in summer and Stout and dark ale in winter.
Pete
I had a brewing phase about twenty years ago. Pressure barrels are great and the only beer I ever made that tasted just like pub beer was the stout. That was really great. I stopped because I realised I was ****** far too often for my own good. It was costing buttons and was a bit tempting having ten gallons on tap in the kitchen. For winter time, I had a heated belt thing that went around the fermenting vessel. It worked well.
I might start again only since I chucked all the kit, I'll have to invest a bit.
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Any good rabbit birger recipes Cookey mate? Just bought a mincer for the little *******.
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Probably a Red Indian to share it with you :blink:
That's not very P.C.!
Aren't they now called Native Americans?
No, not on the prairie they aint, pardner. Dirty, lowdown injun scum, we call 'em in redneck country. The only good injun is a dead injun, here boy. Yeeeha.
And what's this PC - some new fangled whiskey?
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Right - this might take a while but it's been raining all day so I had to cancel my shooting trip and I'm bored...
Started in 1964 with a terrible Diana thing. The barrel (smooth bore as I recall) had to be removed to be loaded with a slug and then plugge back in to fire. I'm not talking break barrel here, the thing actually had to be taken out.
1967 BSA Meteor Super - seemed really powerful, but was probably about eight foot pounds.
1975 Essex 12 bore side by side boxlock non-eject. I still have it.
1979 .58 caliber Enfield 1853 three band rifled musket. http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976364414.htm It fired huge slugs weighing in at an ounce and a quarter. Power could be varied according to how much FFG black powder you put in, but using the standard British Army Infantry load of 80 grains, it had a muzzle velocity about the same as a .22 rimfire subsonic, only instead of a bullet weighing 40 grains, this one weighed around 800 grains. It had immense foot poundage, would shoot through the thick side of a railway sleeper and leave a three inch exit hole and grouped reliably at two inches at a hundred yards. In nineteenth century service use, they were devastating rifles getting off about three aimed shots a minute.
1980 .303 Lee Enfield Mark 4 of WW2 vintage, a real sweet shooter of light recoil unlike my mates 45/70 Trapdoor Springfield which gave me a hell of a headache and a nosebleed from concussion. The .303 had around 1900 foot pounds of energy. http://world.guns.ru/rifle/rfl04-e.htm
1981 Ruger 10/22 carbine. .22 semi auto. 120 ft pounds muzzle energy
1982 Winchester 9422 XTR underlever .22WMR magnum. 320 ft pounds. Wish I still had that gun. http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976455446.htm
2005 TX200, B3 ( a lot better rifle than you'd think). WEbley Axsor.22 (Very, very nice rifle).
Then there's the pistols -
1962 .177 GAT http://www.airguns-online.co.uk/gat.htm
1963 Webley .177
1966 Original .22
1976 Crossman Medalist .22 (still have it and use it)
1979 Black powder .44 cal Muzzle loading cap 'n ball revolver - a repro made in Italy of the 1851 Navy Colt, but not in the original .36 caliber for some reason. Put a big smile on my face that one and covered me in soot, grease and a terrible sulphury stink.As I understand it, these are the only revolvers you are still allowed to own post Dunblane. http://www.buffalobillsshootingstore.com/muzzleloaders.html
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I still have me old powder flask on the fireplace,
Is that wise?
You don't have a few "sweaty" sticks of dynamite in the cuboard uner the stairs as well do you? :blink:
What? You mean maybe you think I should have emptied it and washed it out with soapy water? Hell no, it's got 500 grammes of FFFG inside it and I sprinkle it on the fire to liven up the coals. As for keeping my sweaty dynamite under the stairs, no I've got a crate of that in the hearth where I can keep an eye on it.
On the other matter, Since the compression of ordinary air in a damp climate is CERTAIN to to put water inside the reservoir, I'd have thought if there were going to be horrid results on the valves or tank, we'd have all seen furious threads on it warning of the dire results. Still, I might think of getting one of those dry pack thingies for my Hills pump.
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Black powder is a whole LOT of fun Ive. I still have me old powder flask on the fireplace, and a bullet mould for .45 caliber balls, but that's all I have left from my once proud armoury of 'smoke makin' thunder sticks.
Evilv sits back by the old log fire, lights his pipe, binks a watery eye, and sinks into nostalgia for his old Gold Rush days....
'We wuz headin up to Dawson, back in '93,' he says to the old dog at his feet. 'My buddy, Smokin Joe Jenkins, got into a bit of a scrape with some tough guys in the Painted Harlot Saloon. Shot five of
'em, he did, before his Colt Dragoon misfired and he caught a ball in the chest. Died in agony....'
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One day, I'll tell you about my .58 caliber balck powder rifle and the .45/70 trapdoor Springfield carbine that when fired with factory loaded nitro ammunition made my nose bleed with the recoil and left me with a head ache for the rest of the day. Much softer with black powder crtridges though.
.58 Calibe Enfield Rifled Musket.
http://www.nps.gov/pete/mahan/rifledmusket.html
.45/70 Trapdoor Springfield Rifle.
http://arms2armor.com/Firearms/us4570.htm
I love the smell of black powder in the morning air....
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I was once standing a metre away from a 12 bore pump action which exploded and blew the barrel into twisted strands of steel. It split in several lines about 18 inches from the action rather like a bannana does when bent. Two of the strands seperated from the front of the barrel and bent right back to touch the barrel behind the burst.
It happened because the guy was firing solid slugs rapidly one after another like in a gangster film. He'd loaded the cartridges himself and forgotten to put powder in one of them and when the primer blew the solid slug two thirds of the way down the barrel, the following one came up behind it at 1090 fps and jammed.
The shooter (Chairman of the club, who had already lost three fingers in previous gun accidents over the years) just looked surprised, and then said, calm as you like, "Now that's what you call a ventilated barrel".
I just sloped off to change my trousers and re-evaluate my membership of that particular club, which following a few other serious accidents had become known in the locality among shooters as 'The Bad Reputation Gun Club. One guy shot himself twice in a year, firstly, blowing a terrible ragged hole through his right hand while loading a .7 caliber (yeah three quarters of an inch) flintlock pistol. Shot the ball, wadding and ramrod right through his palm and staggered about the range before collapsing. Later in the year while tidying the range, he shot himslef up the ar*se after throwing a live rifle round in a bonfire with the rubbish. Another guy used his legally held .44 magnum to sort out his wife's lover, and two printers among our number were convicted of a large dollar forging escapade.
I also saw a .44 black powder revolver blow up when several chambers fired at once. The barrel was found about twelve feet down the range. That was a hazard of those cap and ball revolvers that some of us shot there. They had a large flash at the chamber mouth and if you had loaded badly made or undersized lead balls in them, the flash could light other chambers that weren't in line with the barrel. You could stop it by smearing grease on the mouths of the chambers after loading. They were fun, but very filthy things. This is like the one I had:
http://www.buffalobillsshootingstore.com/muzzleloaders.html
Obviously these things happened back in the eighties when you could own loads of fun toys as long as you hadn't been to jail. Happy days.
Really, snakebite, I wouldn't worry about your AA410, just take care where it's pointing when you pull the trigger mate. LOL.
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MAKE SURE THE RESEVIOR IS EMPTY!!!!! DRY FIRE UNTIL EMPTY!!!
ROB :yp:
Yes indeed....
Never attempt to open or fiddle with a CHARGED rifle or air tank...
BANG!!!!
Now shocked and blinded victim of traumatic amputation staggers away from his work bench with blood pouring from stumps of fingers and half empty eye sockets - well empty except for the strings of bloody nerve tissue dangling out onto his cheek.
My Axsor is pumped up to over one and a quarter tons per square inch.
An important reminder Rob - and thanks for the other info too.
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I'm filling my new Axsor with a Hill's pump. I think I may have spotted a flash of water spray at the muzzle when firing the gun the other day. Does that sound reasonable? Is there any way 'dry' firing the thing might empty it of water? Maybe if I held it vertical so that water drained down to the firing valve and then let off a few 'dry' shots I might clear it out... What do you think chaps?
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But the drop on a fac airgun there would be enormous!!!
I got that energy figure from Chairgun. You've probably got it already, but it's quite useful if you're a 'Rainman' type like me...
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all you have to do is think back to what happend to a teacher in this counrty who fired an empty air pistol at the floor in front of someopne to know what should happen to someone who fires a loaded airgun at anyone.
It should be treated as if it was a firearm
whether it is or not remains to be seen.ROB
She was well out of order, but had been driven to distraction by a bunch of scum. I heard recently that the ringleader had been sent to jail for persecuting other people. The problem is that in this country, we molly coddle the scum of the earth because they happen to be under eighteen, even though the afore mentioned dross are responsible for a crime wave. Meanwhile, victimised lady who flips under the pressure of constant harrassment, has the book thrown at her for a stupid gesture....
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Evilv,i agrre if the police think they have a gun then they handle the situatiuon different.This man was standing next to a bus stop in a high street with his mate standing beside him shooting at the passer bys
Thanks for pointing that out then Rob. The little **** needs arresting then and should be treated to the full majesty of the law. He should not be taken out by a swat team though - it just ain't necessary, except on the most bizzare of cases.
Cheers
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No worries Ive.
I'm always getting the wrong end of the stick and shooting off advice / criticism / diatribes (LOL - I just typed DOatribes) only to realise I've dropped a clanger later.
Cheers
Hey but isn't it surprising how much energy that 30 foot pound pellet still has after 50 metres. Pity we didn't have less gravity here on earth, then all our guns would be flat shooters and we could take rabbits at 200 yards knocking them ten feet into the air! Of course, we'd also be knocked off our feet by the recoil....
I wonder what the air gun rules are on Mars?
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With respect Rob, I'd be a bit careful about handing over the right to shoot down people the cops 'think' have a gun. They have a very bad record of shooting people with such things as table legs being taken for repair, harmless or beligerent drunks, and confused mental patients that have been turned out on the streets by our careing (careless?) society. You might also remember the disturbing case of an unfortunate Brazillian chap who having already been restrained by one copper while sitting on a seat and minding his own business, suddenly had his head turned into a sieve by another.
Police have some very difficult matters to deal with and no mistake, but giving them carte blanche to treat some disordered adolescent with a 'gat' air pistol like he was a guy with an AK47, is not my idea of progress mate...
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i aint yoused irons in years how menney people out there youse them
My Chinese B3 has only iron sights I try to fire a few off with that in the garden every day - I enjoy the nostalgia of it...
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Target Zero 50m
Gun zero'd in at shots 11 to 25 (sweet zone)
Shot 1 drops 1" low
Still powerful enough to kill a rabbit shooting it through the head as the velocity is there ...............But 12 ft lb.........Well
Cheers Ive
I should say so - at 50 yards, shot number one would still have 17 ft pounds of energy.
I've noticed the same kind of capers with my new Webley Axsor. The first ten or so shots hit an inch lower at a forty yard target than subsequent ones. Mine seems to come to its best power at about 160 bar. I haven't run the pressure down below 125 bar yet, but its still at its optimum then.
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Myxie is already weel in evidence in areas like Notts S. Yorks and Lincolnshire. I saw some discussion of it on airgunbbs.
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Nick,
sorry nothing to do with being tensed up, when your bunny wabbit jumps in the air and does a double twist and tripple sumersalt it is - just nerves.
Seen it happen nearly every day in the slaughter house after using a captive bolt.
mind you not seen the sumersalt.
A very similar thing would happen to you if someone were to put a "V" max in your bonce. (though i sincerly hope not as i find you entertaining)
HV
get but i have to say its a very different movement, i know what nerves looks like, i mean ive shot a few as im sure you have. but you dont get this affect with anything other than airgun and rimmy, the centerfires get the nerves, but they dont get them leaping 5ft in the air in a quite noticeable controlled fassion (well as controlled as a dead thing can be
)its odd, i take what you say, but its not the answer to this strange behaviour (if it can be called that) centerfires never get anything but a lot of twitching, and i would think there is little difference between one hole through the head to the next. so can only put it down to the bullet/pellet being subsonic and the animal having nearly enough time to react.
had one jus the other evening out of the 3 i shot which jumped like this, head shot @ 75 yards, and it did a massive jump and landed dead, bar the odd twitch.
I think the leaping reaction may well be caused by the comparatively low velocity and hence low shock level imparted by the airgun pellet. There is I think a great difference between a .22 pellet travelling at 560 feet per second and a .223 bullet travelling at 2500 feet per second. One will travel almost through a rabbit's head at thirty yards and deliver about 8 foot pounds of shock to its brain. It will certainly die soon, but there may well be enough of the nervous system intact for the odd one to do a somersault before close down. In the cente fire case, there is a huge impact, hydraulic shock destroying ALL of the central nervous system and nothing but spinal cord induced twitching. Shoot the rabbit through the chest with anything of that order of power and you get a similar response. My old .22WMR would entirely destroy the contents of the thorax and they fell dead at once when chest shot. They fell down stone dead wherever you shot them with that.
The fact is - a sub 12 foot pound airgun will kill rabbits when they are shot in the head, but it can't do the same job as a gun 10 times as powerful (.22 rimmy) or 25 times as powerful (.22WMR), hence you can expect a few acrobatics now and again, or to be honest, maybe one or two times in three. Of course, miss your intended target area by an inch, and the rabbit will fall down, and then jump up and run off. This would not ever happen if it was shot with a more adequate weapon, though I have seen it occur with .22 LR.
On the other hand, maybe we shouldn't get too prissy about this. We are talking about vermin control here.
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Make the punishment fit the crime (EYE FOR AN EYE AND A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH) Now where did i read that
Our society is collapsing around us and examples need to be made because i am certain that Prison ,with Sky tv, 3 square meals and state of the art gymnasiums (which incidentley put our schools to shame) is no longer a deterrant and the reoffending figures prove as such .
Ivan
Here here!
I thoroughly approve of every sentiment expressed here, even though I only quoted a couple of lines.
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How many foot pounds was the handgun that was used to shoot a woman in the head at a christening party last week?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4193250.stm
The fact that hoodie wearing yobbos carry REAL firearms with impunity about the streets - use them to rob and murder the rest of us, and that the incidence of such things is rising exponentially, demonstates the utter stupidity of hand-wringing about stupid airgun limits and whether joes airgun is .5 of a foot pound over the 'pea shooter' limit. I mean - get a life for Chr*st's sake. The scum of the earth are robbing, raping, molesting and mudering joe public and his wife and baby - often armed to the teeth with handguns of 500 to a thousand foot pounds of energy, and people here are anxiously wringing their hands about whether their pea shooter can propel some never used brand of pellet at an extra 10 feet per second (the difference between 11.9 and 12.2 foot pounds - a fast walking pace in other words).
As if there were'nt real issues for the police to deal with....
Heard the one about the men in black who tied up a young mother with wire, kicked the **** out of her, dragged her into the same room as her 4 month old baby and set the place on fire? It happened not too far from here - I doubt checking the airguns of respectable citizens is terribly high on the agenda around here at the moment.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/4196944.stm
Buy a legal airgun, don't mess with its insides and bl00dywell shoot the thing safely in a place where you have permission! That's what you got it for, and nobody cares as long as you don't do something ridiculous with it.
Right - I'm off to get some rabbits.
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Shadup a ya face!
(My distant ancestors were Italian)
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Glad theres no hard feelings :unsure:
Ivan
Absolutely none at all.
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Cheers mate. And thanks again.
I'm just making some now. I have a butchered lamb off the farm - not bought you understand which would break EU law - call it a 'present' from a farmer mate. I gave him a present of £60 a week or two ago - funny how nice he was to give me a lamb all bagged up eh... and I'm using the less choice cuts like the Lap (ribs and bits) to grind up with the bunnies. I got six half pound bags off one side of ribs - enough to go with half a dozen rabbits. Pork or fatty lamb probably makes little odds, when what we're really after is some tasty fat to go with the ultra lean rabbit meat. Anyway, when I've exhausted all of this, I'll try the pork instead.
See ya...