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PM Sent, lets up the anti

I completed the online form on the Countryside Alliance to lobby on the lead shot ban. I was surprised how quick and easy it was to do. anyway the only response so far iss from my local UKIP representative and I thought you might like to read and take from it what you want . Caveat - This does not relate to my person pollitical alliance (as if i had one). ------------------------------------- Dear Campaigner Thank you for writing to Nigel Farage about an EU-initiative to interfere in the manufacture, composition and use of gun-shot, by imposing legislation, which would make ammunition less effective, more expensive or both and place further stringent restrictions on shooting. Like most of the EU's "environmental" legislation, this initiative comes from the United Nations Organisation, whose "UN Economic Commission for Europe" issued a Heavy Metals Protocol http://www.tno.nl/content.cfm?context=thema&content=prop_publicatie&laag1=896&laag2=915&laag3=109&item_id=176&Taal=2 which was eagerly ratified in 1998, by the EU, and in which "shot and ammunition" are specifically mentioned, and the present development is foreseen. The EU's captive, and heavily subsidised, lobby-groups are already applying pressure in support of banning lead-ammunition: http://www.fieldsportsmagazine.com/News-and-Comment/surprise-call-for-lead-shot-ban.html UKIP's view is that neither the UN, nor the EU, possesses the democratic legitimacy to impose legislation of any kind, and that any government, which cedes power, to either of these organisations, betrays its electorate and becomes illegitimate also. The British Government will have been in this condition, for forty years, on 1st July 2012. Naturally, we shall oppose the legislation you mention, when it comes before us, but, since the EU's "parliament" has only rejected four-or-five of the EU-Commission's 10,000-odd,legislative proposals, this century, and since UKIP's delegation - though relatively substantial - can never be more than a tiny minority in a 752-seat EU-assembly, the chances of our defeating it are nugatory. The only hope of rejecting this measure lies in rejecting the EU, which is indeed UKIP's policy and only UKIP's policy. Yours sincerely

Nikko Sterling mount master - one of the worst scopes I have used. Spend your £100 via an online shop and buy a hawke on offer.

very, very nice

:-)

That looks fantastic!

:-).

Use a cloth over the screw cap and a pair of mole grips, the hawke ir caps are always hard to turn.

Spoke with Edgar and the barrel should not be floating as the synthetic stock is flexible. I fully agree that there is much more than pinpoint accuracy and 90% of my time is spent hunting not paper punching. On the flip side there is also nothing wrong with trying to get the best results possible. More confidence in your kit leads to a more confident shoot. I appreciate everyone's comments, helps put things into perspective.

Thanks gixer1.

Thanks, I tried that but still no luck.

Mine is also 16.5 and the action screw is half way down the barrel. The paper only goes as far as the sling stud!. I triesd pulling it past but no luck.

That is lucky. My living probably isn't up to range standards.

I don't think indoors would go down well at mine . bipod and sandbag is my usual.

I'll try. Ta

Hmmm a £5 note doesn't go more than a couple of inches between the barrel and stock.

I did run 50 cci through as well. Mainly because after trying the eley and getting bad groups I went back to the drawing board. Initially the eleys were shooting 2 inches high and they were only zerod in 4 days ago. But the whole group was high so I put it down to a knock. Still can't explain the bad group. Does anyone with a cz 452 actually have a floating barrel?. Mine is only floating for the third nearet the noisy end.

Excellent post. I actually put the groups down to pilot error and packed up my bits and left for the evening. Even with a bad day to go from a group of touching holes to 3 inch just after cleaning can't just be me having a bad day.?. I won't know until I get back out again I guess. To zero this rifle I did exactly as you say. Fit scope, zero starting at 30 yards then point at the bull and run through different rounds.

How does everyone set up for getting their "best" results. Bipod, sandbags, both or bench rested ?.

Hi all, I wondered what group size everyone usually achieves with their .22lr. I have a new cz style that has had at least 500 rounds though it. Is was achieving reasonable 1/2 groups with Winchester and eley rounds. After a 100 or so rounds of each the Winchester opened up and the eley reduced to around 35mm. I (maybe stupidly) cleaned the barrel and now the groups are all over the place. After a 100 rounds the Eley are back down to 1inch -1.5inch at 70yards. I guess my question is: Is an inch at 70 yards the usual and am I chasing a pointless dream to get it smaller?. Or should I keep trying different ammo (tried eley, Winchester, cci subs and cci stinger). Appreciate you thoughts folks

Used aa field for ages but found it a bit light in .177

Thanks guys, I would agree that an accurate no hp is better than point and hope hp. I've never used target ammo before so wanted to check. I'll let you know how I get on.

not a bad price, are you using for target only, the match stuff is apparently not subsonic either!?

Very expensive at £4.80 a box, thats less than ... well I don't need to show my working out

your local gun shop may just have them in stock, mine did £25 for a 10 shot mag.