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  1. can tell you now mate, that has either been imported recently or re proofed you can see some of the original stamps. not to mention that gun hasn't been in production for the last 45 years. not necessarily damaged but possibly refurbed. its a beauty regardless but penny for a pinch of sh... thats been re proofed
  2. does it have no other proof marks on the barrels? america dont proof mark their shotguns so they get done on import. you should have a few different markings. the 3200 stopped getting made as far s im aware some time in the early 80s but CIP stamping didnt really take off in the uk until about 1990. and that LP16 stamp is 2016. how long you had the gunmate?. because thats been reproofed to a minimum standard of about (not exact so might be worth contacting london proof) 850 bar. has it been bulged and fixed?
  3. CIP is the commission Internationale permenente (permanent international commission) its basically a bunch of country's mostly European that agreed on set standards and pressures for small arms and recognise each others proof marks. the proof marks they use are cip followed by a letter that means something. london and birmingham still use their own proof marks too hence why every gun has about 10 symbols on it now CIP N is compulsory minimum standard proof CIP S is Superior CIP fleur de les is steel proof CIP PN is black powder
  4. not somthing ive ever felt i need, but if i was gona camo a gun or any piece of gear id use vet wrap. you can get it in most colours like olive or black may even do a camo version. its basically that stuff they put round horse ankles. a rubberised bandage that clings to itself and not what you wrap. also offers a bit of protection to whatever it wraps. however it might retain water so ill take it of now and then to make sure stuffs not rusting.
  5. Was interested in picking up a dozen. But with the bag being a canny hefty price and me not wanting more to carry anyway do the shells stack like normal shells?. If not what really is the benefit of them over the full body decoys.
  6. i honestly wouldnt go getting a barrel reemed out and threaded then re proofed. be cheaper just to buy a cheap beater. the hatsan escort is 3" and performance steel proofed and dirt cheap
  7. ive got a 3ply 5m stealth net from A1. robust, light, good level of visibility and for me most important it doesn't tangle very much. Army nets were the bane of my life. i wouldn't get too hung up on colour or actual camouflage. your not setting up an SAS OP. as-long as it covers you and breaks up the outline a bit its fine. pigeons will see the hide no problem anyway they just simply haven't got the mental capacity to think "whats in that hide?". "i think therefore i am" is a bit much for bird brains. anything they cannot see at that time doesn't exist
  8. steel deforms less than lead when fired so requires allot less choke because it patterns tighter. unless the choke is stamped steel proof dont go above half choke. even then i really wouldn't recommencement it. a half choke on steel will throw something similar to 3/4 to full in lead so its plenty. another rule of thumb is go 2 shot sizes up so if you use 6 go to the size equivalent of lead 4. now it gets tricky. steel shot is sized smaller than lead so a lead 4 is in fact a steel 5. if you shoot 30g of lead 6, a good pigeon steel load will be something like 32g of steel 5 that will
  9. i buy more than i shoot thats for sure. if i add it all up and share it all out over the birds ive shot i must be on for about £10-£15 per pigeon. do i shoot no birds or do i buy loads of stuff? not brilliant either way
  10. no doubt you have a great wealth of experience and knowledge. far far more than me by some stretch but unless youre the best at it their is still something to learn form others. even when youre the best you still have have things to be discovered. that im 100% convinced of.
  11. ah thats good to know. however i get a fair bit of amazon vouchers through work so i need to use them up. i got one of your hide gun stands delivered about 20 mins ago and that was ordered at about 8pm on Monday .
  12. so thats it is it?. hasn't been done in the past and we cannot possible learn new things as everything has already been learned.... wasnt until the 70s that it was discovered that birds can see in the UV specturm and even some folks on here have been shooting them since before then. Going back to previous comments in this thread thats also the reason they dont react to decoys or shooters in snow very well. Their already uv sensitive eyes get saturated with UV reflection from the sun on the snow and it blinds them.........snow blind.... its not known if it causes lasting damage. but ev
  13. for the record i tend to agree with you. nothing in my experience has made me believe blue is bad for shooting pigeons, but are you not even a little curious to find out how this lecturer arrived at such a theory?. i mean its long established pigeons can see ultra violet aka blue light..... maybe its not a case of theyre scared of blue. maybe its something about the blue spectrum through their vision makes it more noticeable or something. i agree with everyone else its about movement but maybe movement is more forgiving in certain colours than others. has anyone ever gone
  14. less of a % more of a nice way of saying i dont buy it but im also not pigheaded enough to just dismiss it out of hand. show me the evidence and ill listen to the argument with an open mind. you know the kind of attitude that keeps the human race moving forward.
  15. im not 100% convinced for 3 reasons. 1. blue is a massive spectrum from sky blue to dark navy so its a bit broad a statement to be made if it were true 2. nothing im aware off that pigeons have to fear is blue in their natural environment 3. pigeon themselves are a kind of blue/grey and if anything id think they'd associate certain shades as friendly and safe
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