Edward Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Someone at 17 applying for an FAC (no other member of family holds an FAC) would they be granted a centerfire rifle (specificly a .223) Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codling99 Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 i dont think theres an age issue,if they got land,forms filled correctly,and mentor,cant see why not,but will need a mentor for at least 6 months. best bet is to ring firearms dept of local police and ask them ,they ll tell you exactly whats needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3jackwhite3 Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 im 17 and i was granted a .22 and .223 but i had been a member of a rifle range for a year before i applied, but i was also mentored and i am now waiting for my ticket to come back with it changed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 (edited) I think it depends on your background, what land you have and how you come across in your interview. Legally you're entitled to a .223 if you can prove you're sensible and have the use for it so I can't see why you shouldn't be allowed one if you meet their expectations. Do you plan to ask for anything else? What do you want the .223 for? Is there anyone who could mentor you if that was the only option? EDIT... I just looked at your profile. From what I can make of you if anyone could get a .223 at your age it's going to be you. You're in a very good position to ask! Good luck :blink: If you get turned down and can't find a mentor then let me know. I'd consider helping you after meeting you and making sure we get on. I'm not too far away from you so could make it over now and again to keep an eye on you. Don't take this as an attempt to shoot overyour land, I wouldn't bring a gun unless you wanted me to. To be honest though I doubt you'll need a mentor, you've got the perfect background for this kind of thing and already have shooting experience. Edited October 12, 2009 by njc110381 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edward Posted October 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Thanks :blink: , I ask on behalf of my mate but he has a very similar background wanting a .223 for foxes and deer control, so it should be no problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robc89 Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 im sure someone will correct me if i am wrong but im pretty sure you cant use a .223 for deer control? if its fox and deer control you wish to do a .243 i think would be a better choice. i only say as im 19 had my cert for a year and am thinking of going for CF next year, quite like the idea of a .223 but for practical reason think a .243 would be a better choice. As i said someone will know a tad more on the subject and hopefully inform the both of us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted October 13, 2009 Report Share Posted October 13, 2009 depends on the deer to be controlled. 223 is now fine for muntjac; anything else (except CWD) needs a 243 or more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robc89 Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 thankyou, i didnt know that! sorry ignore my post above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHunter Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 I apologise for being pedantic but just to ensure everyone is singing from the correct song sheet. .240 is the smallest calibre legally used for deer control (other than Munty and CWD) But the round must produce 1700 ft/lbs of muzzle energy. I have only got this amount of energy from bullets which weigh in at 100grains or more with a .243Win My point being if you load your .243 with a 55 to 85 grain bullet it will probably still be illegal to shoot larger deer! TH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 I apologise for being pedantic but just to ensure everyone is singing from the correct song sheet. .240 is the smallest calibre legally used for deer control (other than Munty and CWD) But the round must produce 1700 ft/lbs of muzzle energy. I have only got this amount of energy from bullets which weigh in at 100grains or more with a .243Win My point being if you load your .243 with a 55 to 85 grain bullet it will probably still be illegal to shoot larger deer! TH Wrong :blink: depends where you are in the country :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magman Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 depends on the deer to be controlled. 223 is now fine for muntjac; anything else (except CWD) needs a 243 or more. Your wrong as well try scotland :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHunter Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Ops, sorry. Thanks to the "shortsighted" Cheshire person (LOL) I was refering to ENGLAND. In Scotland not only can you use a .223 to get its attention but you can also take one to the pub feed it Whiskey all night and take it home to meet your Ma as one of the better looking girls on the estate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted October 14, 2009 Report Share Posted October 14, 2009 Yep, I was also referring to England. Deer laws north of the border make considerably more sense. IIRC, I referred to England because that was the location of the thread starter. Regarding the lighter bullets in a 243, in themselves they are perfectly legal, but you need to drive them relatively quick. 3350 for a 70gr Nosler will do nicely, over 1700ft/lbs and good general purpose. However, I would never use anything under about 90 grain (100 is better) on deer larger than a roe. Roe are dinky, 223 is fine for them, shame about the English law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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