foxnet22 Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 hi there lads been out today with my escort semi for pigeon.got under the flightline ov the birds but today they where coming over higher than usual had afew shots but nothing in the bag.what size cartridge and choke would u lads normally use in this situation.i am a newcomer to shotgun shooting so maybe its just lack ov practise. cheers lads ALAN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Probably find loads of different preferences,but personally i have 3/4 and full in the browning all the time.Cartridge for your flightline would have been 32g of 6s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 32gms of no6 shot with improved cylinder (IC) choke does the trick and 30-40yds is an ideal range to make clean kills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 Probley nothing to do with cartridge size or shot but more to do with missing behind them try giving them a good amount of lead 2 or 3 yards All the best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
utectok Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 modified choke (1/2) and 34 gms of shot 5 for roosting or flighting should pull down the high ones. Usually 1/4 choke and 30 gms of 6 inthe other barrel but you've got a semi so ..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SSS Posted November 28, 2009 Report Share Posted November 28, 2009 32gram #6 and plenty of lead. if you miss infront, your having problems. a common fault is not giving enough lead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clayman Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 (edited) Assuming the birds were in range and other guns were bringing them down, its unlikely that the cartridge choice and choke had much to do with the empty bag. More likely either insufficient lead being given, or enough put on but stopping the gun at the moment of firing. Best way to learn this type of target is at a high tower on a clay range where you can start with targets that he can hit overhead, say at 60ft, and then progressively increase the height. A trap sitting on a high bank or on a tower with ground dropping away under the flight line allows you to walk slowly backwards progressively increasing the target height as the land drops away. Take a 1/2 doz shots that hit at each stage moving back until you reach a point where there is a problem. Walk back up the hill 10 yds, get some kills in, and start walking backwards again, talking a new batch of shots every 10 yds or so, that probably represents another 10ft of height in the targets depending on the slope. Because this is progressive you can build up the skills for taking out really high birds at 120ft or so, that if just presented raw would have been impossible to the novice as there is no ingrained sight picture memory for what kind of lead was needed. This is almost certainly more technique and confidence with long forward allowance sight pictures than equipment fault. Edited November 29, 2009 by clayman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxnet22 Posted November 29, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 Assuming the birds were in range and other guns were bringing them down, its unlikely that the cartridge choice and choke had much to do with the empty bag. More likely either insufficient lead being given, or enough put on but stopping the gun at the moment of firing. Best way to learn this type of target is at a high tower on a clay range where you can start with targets that he can hit overhead, say at 60ft, and then progressively increase the height. A trap sitting on a high bank or on a tower with ground dropping away under the flight line allows you to walk slowly backwards progressively increasing the target height as the land dropps away. Take a 1/2 doz shots that hit at each stage moving back until you reach a point where there is a problem. Walk back up the hill 10 yds, get some kills in, and start walking backwards again, talking a new batch of shots every 10 yds or so, that probably represents another 10ft of height in the targets depending on the slope. Because this is progressive you can build up the skills for taking out really high birds at 120ft or so, that if just presented raw would have been impossible to the novice as there is no ingrained sight picture memory for what kind of lead was needed. This is almost certainly more technique and confidence with long forward allowance sight pictures than equipment fault. thanks for that clayman a very interesting read.also thanks lads for the info once again a very helpfull bunch of lads on this forum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tobyb525 Posted November 29, 2009 Report Share Posted November 29, 2009 I think the biggest thing is keeping the gun moving as you fire - its all too easy to stop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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