shotgun sam Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 I am looking for some general details on these in rem223 with a 1:12 twist. 1. are they classed as expanding ammo/ 2. where can I buy them (live in west of scotland or purchase by the web)? 3. I am currently using vagrant powder how much should I start with? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flytie Posted January 19, 2010 Report Share Posted January 19, 2010 Vagrant? you mean like a tramp? Outstanding They are expanding and you cant get them posted. Midway, et al, will post to your local RFD if he/they are amenable. ft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Wouldnt bother, they tend to group like a shotgun. Nosler 50 grn shots will kill any fox you hit for a lot less money and far more accuracy. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruxie hill Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Wouldnt bother, they tend to group like a shotgun. think these need a 1in 10 or quicker all the best bruxie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve_b_wales Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 I bought some of the above heads for my .243, because of the effect they are supposed to do when hitting the target. I tried them on Water Melons, and the effect was no different to that of the 75Grn heads I normally use. No difference in accuracy though, they grouped well. My advice, don't bother with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 I originally looked at Barnes in .223 but decided to go for V-Max as they are highly frangible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny bagger Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 I tried them in my 222, accuracy was **** and no expansion at all, Try the 34 grn DogTown Hollow points from Midway UK, they are far more accurate and much more frangable, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
inthedark Posted January 22, 2010 Report Share Posted January 22, 2010 I tried a box of these (varmint grenades) in .223 (35g I think) because they're frangible. They definately didn't have the knock down power of 40g or 55g Vmax even at close range and I didn't like them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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