wymberley Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Hi, Guys, Have been told (this forum) that you cannot use the Description round in the Title rifle. Can't now remember who said it. Is this correct? Thanks in advance. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casts_by_fly Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 sure you can. Lot of guys in the US do it as the 40 gr v-max has a lot better BC than the 35 gr without a whole lot more weight. Thanks Rick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 lots of guys in the UK use them also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 sure you can. Lot of guys in the US do it as the 40 gr v-max has a lot better BC than the 35 gr without a whole lot more weight. Thanks Rick Thanks, mate and Mark too. That's the point I was making (35 BC is 0.109 (I think) and 40 is 0.2) when I was told that you couldn't do it. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus69 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 This is an excellent bullet in the Hornet I find it extremely consistent and accurate, however (there always has to be a however doesn't there!).The 40gr V-max is too long to fit in some rifles magazines if you have a CZ/BRNO then you can modify the magazine by knocking out the blanking piece taking a skim off it and glueing it back into place.My Ruger will not accept the 40gr V-Max into the magazine and I have to load singly which can be a bit of a pain if you need to get another shot off quickly. I would suggest begging a couple of 40gr bullets from someone and making up some check rounds to see that they A:fit into your magazine ok. B:chamber ok without needing to be seated too deep into the cartridge cases. Mike... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 5, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 This is an excellent bullet in the Hornet I find it extremely consistent and accurate, however(there always has to be a however doesn't there!).The 40gr V-max is too long to fit in some rifles magazines if you have a CZ/BRNO then you can modify the magazine by knocking out the blanking piece taking a skim off it and glueing it back into place.My Ruger will not accept the 40gr V-Max into the magazine and I have to load singly which can be a bit of a pain if you need to get another shot off quickly. I would suggest begging a couple of 40gr bullets from someone and making up some check rounds to see that they A:fit into your magazine ok. B:chamber ok without needing to be seated too deep into the cartridge cases. Mike... Again, thanks. I currently shoot 223 Tikka T3 Stainless Varmint but have been giving a mate a hand to come up with a good reload for his Anschutz hornet. He's been using Hornady 35 factory and has now gone for the 35 for the reloads. However, I'm beginning to think that I'm somewhat overgunned and while playing around with the figures for him I started thinking that 40 (because of the BC) in the Hornet may just be good for me. I'll take your sound advice and see if I can scrounge a couple to try in my mate's gun/magazine because if I do "jump ship" that's the make I'll go for. Many thanks. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 6, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 6, 2010 Magus 69, hi, mate. Could I please ask for a bit more help? Got nowhere with my scrounging but this is fine because I've now tripped over the Nosler Ballistic Tip Spitzer 40gr. This has a 0.221 BC (length for info is 0.7"). However, Mike, I'm confused. You describe the magazine problem: Is this because to fit in the mag the bullet has to be too far into the cylinder end of story or is it because in order to sit the round x thou off the rifling that it then becomes too long. Nosler do the above described as a factory load but sadly don't give the OAL. Really would appreciate your help. Cheers. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magus69 Posted February 7, 2010 Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 (edited) The problem I had was with the magazine only the rounds chambered fine without touching the lands (start of rifling). If I seated the bullet to fit into the magazine (and I load for both my Ruger and my mates CZ/BRNO) then the bullet was way too deep in the cartridge case,also at the time of using the 40s' I was playing around with powders and found with RL7 that the charge was compressed too much and got a bit worrying when seating the bullet cos you could hear the powder kernals crushing and fracturing,Lil Gun and H110 were both fine with H110 giving the best and most consistent results. As I said chambering wise the rounds were perfect. I am currently using Hornady 45gr softpoints product code 2230 as I got 500 for £45.00 as end of line stuff and they're quite good but not as good as the 40gr V-max.However when the 45s' have run out I'm definately going to give the Nossler bullets a try as on paper they look interesting even if I do have to load them as singles. Sorry about the long drawn out answer the condensed version is yes it was only with the magazines I had problems. Cheers Mike... P.S. If you do try out the Nosslers I'd like you to let me know how you get on with them. Edited February 7, 2010 by Magus69 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 7, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2010 The problem I had was with the magazine only the rounds chambered fine without touching the lands (start of rifling).If I seated the bullet to fit into the magazine (and I load for both my Ruger and my mates CZ/BRNO) then the bullet was way too deep in the cartridge case,also at the time of using the 40s' I was playing around with powders and found with RL7 that the charge was compressed too much and got a bit worrying when seating the bullet cos you could hear the powder kernals crushing and fracturing,Lil Gun and H110 were both fine with H110 giving the best and most consistent results. As I said chambering wise the rounds were perfect. I am currently using Hornady 45gr softpoints product code 2230 as I got 500 for £45.00 as end of line stuff and they're quite good but not as good as the 40gr V-max.However when the 45s' have run out I'm definately going to give the Nossler bullets a try as on paper they look interesting even if I do have to load them as singles. Sorry about the long drawn out answer the condensed version is yes it was only with the magazines I had problems. Cheers Mike... P.S. If you do try out the Nosslers I'd like you to let me know how you get on with them. Again, many thanks, Mike. Understand it all fully now. Mate has loaded the 35s and was ready for group testing with various loads and was going to load the preferred batch today so I could have the press and tools common to all calibres back which we share but we had a houlie blowing yesterday so he didn't manage it. Checked the Anny mag and it looks as though it wont take much, if any, more than 1.775". There is some scope for "adjustment" but I think that would be a no no for my mate. However, we will look at the Noslers because I'm going to try them in the 223 and the figures for that look very good indeed. As I mentioned, I'm overgunned (if you're a 69er, I'm a 44er and the eyes aren't what they were). I'm going to stick with the 55s for daylight when I'm fine and wind the power back with the 40s with a sensible shorter (and safer) range at night. Just hoping that I can get some locally (East Devon). Rest assured that I will let you know how we get on as we will try and load some for the Hornet even if, as you say, to fire as singles. Cheers, Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 9, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Magus 69, hi, PM arriving shortly. Cheers, Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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