pellet questions

[bicykillgaz]

right i'm a bit green to the air rifle scene so so go easy on me, i've just got a hw77k which came with a tin of eley wasps (5.6) .22 it shoots quite well with them only got it zero'd at about 18m at the minute (length of garden 15m so sat at dining table with the bay window up ) and can consistently hit betwwen a 20p and 10p coin sized object.

i've got well over half a tin left but have been looking on fleabay for some more and pricing up the rws superdomes some people said they use, the rws's are (5.5) .22 what difference does this make with the eley been (5.6) .22lr does it mean there lighter and gonna have less stopping power than the eley?

 

does anyone use hollow point or them spiked pellets and how do they compare on stopping power/ accuracy to domes? i want to make sure stuffs dead so would think the spiked ones would have better penetration, hollows better stopping power and domes a bit of an all rounder

 

cheers in advance

 

gary

 

 

edit: my garden is safe to shoot in before anyone asks its got a 5ft wall around it and i'm shooting into two argos books gaffa taped together with a spike in the ground so perfectly safe

Edited April 2, 2010 by bicykillgaz

[Billy.]

Pointed pellets are not suitable for hunting as they have less stopping power than a flat or dome head pellet. You basically want a pellet that will exert all of it's energy into its target, by not exiting the other side. If you shoot an animal with a pointed pellet it will pierce its way through and hardly deform and just fly out the other side. A flat or dome will crumple up and turn more of the kinetic energy it holds into energy exerted on the target.

[bicykillgaz]

Pointed pellets are not suitable for hunting as they have less stopping power than a flat or dome head pellet. You basically want a pellet that will exert all of it's energy into its target, by not exiting the other side. If you shoot an animal with a pointed pellet it will pierce its way through and hardly deform and just fly out the other side. A flat or dome will crumple up and turn more of the kinetic energy it holds into energy exerted on the target.

 

 

 

 

thats pointed off the list, so its a toss up between flat/domed/hollow then, so i would think hollow for stopping power and domed for accuracy what do most of you guys use i'm only gonna be shooting out to 30yrds so surely hollows would be ok wouldnt they? or are they lighter with them having a hollow?

 

cheers

[John_R]

Hollowpoints are great out to 20 yards, the RWS Super Hollowpoints being my fave in .22. However, beyond 20 yards they do not group well enough, and that is when to use a domehead.

 

You could just use domes all the time, as when you change from one to the other the zero and hold-overs all change. However, I find that domes can go right through your quarry at short range and that can lead to runners.

[bicykillgaz]

Hollowpoints are great out to 20 yards, the RWS Super Hollowpoints being my fave in .22. However, beyond 20 yards they do not group well enough, and that is when to use a domehead.

 

You could just use domes all the time, as when you change from one to the other the zero and hold-overs all change. However, I find that domes can go right through your quarry at short range and that can lead to runners.

 

 

i think a tin of rws domes and hollows and a bit of trial and error then, but i deffinately dont want runners!

 

cheers john

[aaron airgunner]

if i were shooting rats or feral around farm buildings where ranges are less than 25yrds it would be hollows. anything beyond that domed. the reason i use hollows when shooting rats or ferals is because often your target is moving in this type of shooting (unlike long range sniping) and you need to take a body shot. the hollow giving the greater damage here.

[John_R]

RWS Superdomes are a bit lighter (around 14 grain) then AA Fields etc (around 16 grain). It does seem that the Superdomes work well in a wide range of barrels. I noticed on your original post you quoted the head size of the pellets, ie 5.6 and 5.5mm. That is enough to make a difference, so you might find one groups better than the other.

 

As for the RWS Hollowpoints, their is one location I shoot where I can hide and pot squirrels at 23 yards or less, and if I put the pellet just at the base of the ear (side on shot) they work very well indeed. I have taken the odd magpie there as well with the same pellet with no trouble at all.

[buster321c]

Pointed - NO , the points are all slightly different , so you can`t get consistent POI`s

 

Hollow points and flat heads , ok for close range and ratting , for the same accuracy reasons , are best used close.

 

The best pellets to use will be domed . They will give you the best , consistent , POI , and will fly further , truer , than the others .

 

I used to use RWS super domes in my springer , and Webley Mozzies ( both .22 )

 

Now i use Crossman accupells , Air Arms Fields , JSB Exacts , and Deffiants , ( all domed in .177 )

 

I always think it pays to use a more expensive pellet , rather than a cheap one , as with most things in life , you get what you pay for ,

[bicykillgaz]

cheers for that buster, i think i'll just get some more domed ones probably rws super domes, most my shots when ever possible will be head shots so should be fine, cheers for the advice guys

[chewy0013]

What type of pellet do people prefer for pigeon?

[John_R]

What type of pellet do people prefer for pigeon?

 

Same rules apply as above.

[aaron airgunner]

for a woody then it would be domed with a head shot every time. for ferals (which are not going to be past 25yrds) an upper chest shot is needed with hollowpoints.

[amateur]

I generally use AA field domed heads for both guns,

but I have also had very good results with Predator plastic pointed pellets, which seem to combine the penetration of a pointed pellet with the kill effect of a hollow-point - and my accuracy is just as good as with domed pellets.

They are relatively expensive though, and on balance, I will probably keep on with the AA fields

[Clubshot]

With Break Action Rifles - they work better with lighter Pellets

 

Check out Defiant 5.52's @ 14.00 Grains - Domed - Bullet Shaped - Work well in most HW Rifles

 

Designed in weight up front so Stop's most known Air Gun Controled Vermin

 

BOB/R

 

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