non toxic

[chris64]

Thinking ahead i know looking at getting some cart in non toxic, your view's on these ive narrowed it down to these 3 cart's in 3'' mainly for goose pricey i know

 

VIP EVO lll BISMUTH 46g

 

REMINGTON WINGMASTER HD

 

WINCHESTER ELITE XTENDED

[Guest cookoff013]

i`d recomend not going for bismuth.

 

i have no personal experiance with the others.

but they have to be better.

 

i`d always say tungsten for long range pass shooting goose.

Edited May 28, 2010 by cookoff013

[MC]

I too would avoid Bismuth, the new stuff is meant to be better but to be honest I am not going to pay the money to find out.

 

I have not used the others but if you are trying to avoid steel then go for either ITM or TMX from Gamebore or Hevi Shot from Express.

[UK fowler]

stick with the yank stuff 13/8oz or 11/2oz no2# &4#

[shakin stevens]

I Think them remmi wingmaster are nearly five quid each!!!! seen a few lads using them on the foreshore

and yes they do the trick but are way to expensive!!

[chrispti]

I have some wingmaster HD...... excellent cartridge

 

Have not used the other 2 that you've mentioned

 

PS;

 

Remmington nitro steel in BB is very good too, and a bit cheaper

Edited May 28, 2010 by chrispti

[Dekers]

Thinking ahead i know looking at getting some cart in non toxic, your view's on these ive narrowed it down to these 3 cart's in 3'' mainly for goose pricey i know

 

VIP EVO lll BISMUTH 46g

 

REMINGTON WINGMASTER HD

 

WINCHESTER ELITE XTENDED

 

 

I don't want to look ahead to these, and I wish I earned your money!!

[chris64]

Thanks for your view's lad's ,as to my wage's every penny count's price isent the point it's the quality that count's i just want the right cart for the job,spoke to 5or6 guy's about it,1 no longer going fowling becuse nothing will do other than lead the others 2 steel bb's the rest non toxic they wont use steel becuse steel not got the waight behind it or the penitration to drop geese ,the nitro my be an option,

[Guest cookoff013]

the yankies know there stuff when it comes to ammo. their industry is faster than ours when it comes to this.

they handload steel 7/8oz of bbs at 2000fps. (1900fps +) they give steel so much energy it works well, overcoming the ballistic dis-advantage

 

you wont be shooting 80+ yards out. thats silly. anything in 40yards should be toast.

 

i`d allways recomend the tungsten to a first time waterfowler, it is cheaper than buying a, cheaper inferiour cartridge and then never using them again. also the tungsten is the same speed as lead. so lead distances dont have to be adjusted.

 

there is a difference between tungsten at 1200fps and steel going 1900fps. !

 

usa handloaders developed a 10gauge Tungsten super shot 1,3/4oz of TSS#5 going 1550fps. this has been patterend at 100yards and is regarded as a 100yard gun. (dont forget they shoot swans too). the density is 18g/cc and at 100yards still patterns and penetrates steel plate. i`d be happy to provide the links.