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Im new to the forum and i wondered whether anybody could help me with a problem.

 

I need to buy a new scope because my simmons was sold on with my Hornet that i sold a while ago.

 

Any ideas on what make to go for or whether to stick with a simmons.

 

Help would be great

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Depends on what your looking for scope wise...

 

If it's just a reasonable hunting scope opticswarehouse are doing the hawke pro-stalk 4-14x50 for half price... £75 instead of the £149 rrp as the pro-stalks are being discontinued to make way for the new SR reticule scopes.

 

Bushnell or the likes it aint... but it's an awfull lot of scope for 75 quid !

 

Tony

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Personally I'm not a great fan of simmons scopes anyway, well not the lower end ones... Hawke's aint that blinding either... but depends on how much your looking to spend...

 

That pro-stalk deal at half price gets you an awfull lot of scope for your money... you wont get anything better from any brand at £75... cos your getting a £150 mil dot scope in the next level up scope wise for a budget scope price.

 

See if you can get a look through one before deciding...

 

On the other hand if you are looking to spend £150 plus ... then have a look at some thing like a Bushnell Legend 5-15x40 it's in another class altogether compared to hawkes and simmons. They can be imported at that sort of price.

 

Regards

Tony

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Simmons Pro-Air 4-12x40 AO Matte w/ Tgt Turrets Telescopic Sight ( Scope )£130.95 UK Price

 

I use this and thoroughly reccomend it .At dusk even though it's not designed for it the light gathering capabilities are superb.

 

Buy on-line in From the USA and don't get ripped off like me though :lol:

 

Ive

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There are others on here that will slate the Pro-stalk but for the price you will not get better than the 1/2 price 4-14x50.

I have the 3-9x50 which I find Excellent. Maybe because I have not much experience of the top end scopes who knows?

But at the end of the day if it is only for 12lb air rifle then anything more could be described as "overkill".

 

(Just my opinion and please don't lay into me you target shoters!)

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frstly no one has asked what your goign to be using it for?

 

couple of questions to help you decide which scope is best for you:

 

1. do you need mil dot?

easier to work out hold over/under BUTif your shooting to set distances a little redundant, also probably find a decent 30/30 ret will do just as good on a .177 or a .22

 

2. Do you need to be able to range find?

takes a lot of the guess work out in the field BUT you have to either hold the rifle up or look over the top of the rifle to see what range you have it at, you also need to use this at max mag to get an accurate reading (see q3)

 

3. Do you need high mag?

high mag works best wigh a rnage finding scope, BUTlimits you field of view as well as showing any shakes you have average mag used in field would be 4-6x mag.

 

4. do you need an illuminated reticle (I.R.)?

aids in low light conditions BUT so would a lamp.

 

5. What rifle is it going on?

spring or PCP? if its a break barrel you may find a large scope is too big!

 

think about all the questions above, the more gimmicks you have ona scope the more it should add to the cost yet they are all a similar price, so the only other thing they can do is reduce the quality of the glass used! the less you have ona scope the higher the quality of glass. The cheaper scopes WILL loose zero when changing the magnification.

 

I have used simmons:

WTC 3-9-40/50 very good lens

 

WTC 6.5-20x50PA pretty damn good and about the best i have looked through but i didnt need the high mag and shot almost everything at 6.5xmag so was wasted on me.

 

Bushnell 3-9x40 probably the best scope i have used

 

hawke 3-9x40 ok if your on a budget.

 

hawke 4x40 (£20) didnt miss a single thing i went for with it!

 

I would advise goign for the highest quality you can afford, i find at the club everyone who has a rifle changes scope at least 3 times in thier first year of shooting, and normaly end up with a scope they need, not nesesarily the one they think looks the best!!!!!

 

ROB :D

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I thought I had better let Snake go first.

 

You may wonder what is going on here :)

 

He bought a Hawke Pro Stalk 3-9x50 earlier this year off me on ebay.

 

I reckon they are OK, the reason I flogged it was to fund a better scope and I couldn't see it offered me anything better than the Hawke Reflex it was replacing.

They are nice and clear, but are a bit bigger than their equivilant Reflex as they have a parallax ring, so need slightly higher mounts.

 

If you can pick one up nice nice and cheap like he did, you will be :P:) all the way to the bank.

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If I had to get another scope for the money I would do EXACTLY the same again.

 

Yes there are better but value for money wise now they are selling them @£99 you cannot go wrong. IMHO

 

Cheers StuartP!

 

EDITED TO CORRECT SPELLING!

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don't know your opinions on this one so go on let us have it!

i'v got a rino 3-9 by 50IR mildot. i find it solid, nice an clear, good reticle, adjustable brightness on the IR, the zoom is a little stiff but it's still prity new and the paralax works a treat.

oh almost forgot the best bit, it only cost me £70 inc mounts! :lol:

not bad huh?

 

spider

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I'd suggest (assuming hunting) a Bushnell Trophy 3-9x40 mil-dot. Don't be put off by some other scopes having a 50mm objective and thinking this'll be darker - it won't. $88 plus import costs should equal £90 or so delivered. I've not found any Hawke scope that can match even the cheap Bushnells for quality.

http://www.dnrsports.net/miva/merchant.mv?...trophyscopesbsn

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behind 1 of 5 100% here, i use a bushnell trophy 3-9x40 30/30 ret on two rifles and i think they are a bloody good scope!

 

Cheapest you can get them over here is £130ish for the 30/30 ret and dont think i have seen the mil dot in any shop on web or in mags at all.

 

a basic rule of thumb when you order from abroad if you do get caught for tax its roughly +20% of the total price including shipping e.g. scope costs $100 shipping $20 total $120 then the tax will add 20% to that =$144, but the tax you pay on delivery you wont get any warning about it, and you wont be able to have your parcel until it is paid. Even after tax though it still makes it a bloody good price!

 

ROB :thumbs:

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