Gun juice

[Redgum]

I was wandering around the CLA game fair looking for reloaders international ( after buying a guide realised they were not even at the CLA), I popped into a rifle builders to ask for directions and noticed alot of advertising for Gun Juice. I didnt buy any because it just looked like another product to catch the shooter but since then I have done a bit of research on the internet and it makes some amazing claims on what it does to a rifles barrel. Once the barrel has been treated the velocity and accuracy is improved remarkably, gun wear is greatly reduce and cleaning easier. It forms a hard coating inside the bore that can only be removed by machining or heating to 750 degrees C. Apparently the chap invented the formula because his wife was recoil sensitive, he built a wildcat .17 rifle for her that did 7000fps, burned out the barrel in 100rnds until he used gun juice, the next barrel did 7000 rnds.

I must give it a try, will source some at the Midland as no stockist local, of course anyone reckons its pants.

[harv]

sounds good but im not convinced on something that must put a lining on the barrel and if so how uniform is it, in other words protects the rifling but how does

it affect accuracy

[Redgum]

Apparently you run a damp patch of gun juice down the barrel and fire a round, this is done upto ten times or until the point of impact stops rising (due to increased velocity) The chemical fills in all the microscopic voids in the barrel as the round pressures it in, its based on a teflon like structure, less resistance will increase the velocity and aid acuracy. Its also good on actions and triggers.

[seeker]

surely less resistance would lower pressure and velocity?? There's a thread somewhere on moly coating where they talk about having to increase loads to maintain velocity ....

[Redgum]

The claims are that the point of impact rises as the barrels treated, if the velocity dropped so would the point of impact. Maybe its that factory barrels create more friction than is need to expand the case and propel the bullet, thus increasing pressure inefficiently. By filling in these microscopic inperfections and dry lubing the barrel it would make for a more efficient use of the expanding gases and reduce damage from these gases as they would escape more quickly. Well this is my thought on it but I will have to get some, its not that easy to find, only ever seen it at the game fair.

I will get some at the Midland and treat all my guns and see what happens, if the claims are true, more velocity, better accuracy and longer barrel life then I will become an agent, that will be my first million secured

[Floating Chamber]

I am sure you could buy it at the petrol pumps in the 1960s for 'thrupence' a squirt. Yes! It was called RedEx! :blink:

[malkiserow]

doesn't it also go by the name of snake oil :blink:

[seeker]

No not 'snake oil', that would also cure hang-overs: positively guarantee that you gun would never miss, and then would predict the lotto results.

A thought .. if it can be removed by heating, how does it cope with the 5000+ ° at the chamber end where you need the protection?

[shooting charley]

Yes i use it you can buy it here.

 

G J

 

shootingcharley.

Edited August 12, 2010 by shooting charley

[Redgum]

Yes i use it you can buy it here.

 

G J

 

shootingcharley.

 

 

Welllllllllll, does it work, did you notice any differance when you used it.

[Redgum]

I am sure you could buy it at the petrol pumps in the 1960s for 'thrupence' a squirt. Yes! It was called RedEx!

 

Actually your not so far from the truth there, STP oil treatments used Microlon type coatings, put it in the engine oil and it would attach itself to moving parts. Remember seeing a air cool v dub engine demo.Two engines on pallets, one had the stp treatment and was run for about five minutes then the oil was drained from both engines and they were run flat out. I think there was a running stake on how long they would last. The one engine didnt last long but the stp treated engine kept going till the sun came up the next day. Mind you it was along time ago and theres been alot of whiskey under the bridge since then.

[Rem223]

7000fps in a 17? Sorry but that's pure undiluted horse faeces. Even assuming you had solid copper bullets there is no way you would get enough pressure in a barrel to generate such a velocity.

[shooting charley]

Welllllllllll, does it work, did you notice any differance when you used it.

 

I have used this product for about a year now and yes i believe it works, the main reason i started using it was to try to eliminate the first shot moment after cleaning? After using it i found my .204 rifle shot point of aim strait away and yes it was much better to clean in my opinion.

 

Appling this product has to be done right for it to make a difference; it must be a clean barrel! And the advice i was given by the makers was to remove the stock and scope heat the barrel using a heat gun to around 60 degrees patch the solution with the barrel hot you will feel it get easer as you patch keep using the same patch do this 5 times then patch until dry now you are done, it only works with a clean barrel .

 

Shootingcharley.

Edited August 13, 2010 by shooting charley