Evil Elvis Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Elbarto, they are the same thing but as usual Rip Off UK has added its huge chunk!!! They are about £150 in the states Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happypig Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 (edited) just had my hands on the very thing.................... IMHO its interesting. It certainly is not night vision. It is certainly not a lamp. A very defined laser with a scaleable beam. With the beam tightened to that of your scope at range it will give the appearance of looking through NVG's or a II scope........... this is possible why its marked as night vision............... You pick up the grainy lack of depth of a II scope. On a flood setting the range would be reduced and too tight the beam will reflect back on any surface. Its an active source as well so ok of your quarry is not bothered by a very bright light being flashed around or you are not woried about being seen! OK for shooting through a scope , distracting a bad person, designating an area / pointing over distance................. anything sneaky will not be so good. I would suggest that it is mounted alongside a scope and adjusted to the scope at your set distance. THe fine adjustment is not something i would want to be playing with in the field. Use a lamp for scanning and fixing , then this for the final shot. About £500 for the large torch as linked!!!! pricey Edited August 24, 2010 by happypig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellebarto Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 Acid test! Would you buy one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happypig Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 No Get a lamp it works Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellebarto Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 No Get a lamp it works Ive got a deben tracer mini, scope mounted. It works well enough but scares bunnies quite quickly. Was looking for an alternative that kept them around long enough for a couple of shots! The youtube clips make it look great but I must admit Im not quite getting it over a lamp! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodmedod.one Posted August 24, 2010 Report Share Posted August 24, 2010 I visited a few US websites to look at these. Several people had posted to say that the laser needs re-zeroing to the scope after every shot on a centrefire so it seems like the mount isn't up to much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richjo22 Posted August 25, 2010 Report Share Posted August 25, 2010 I've seen the YouTube videos for this product and read the related material. I'm maybe missing the point on these but aren't they just a green light. Wouldn't a light with a green filter have the same effect? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happypig Posted August 26, 2010 Report Share Posted August 26, 2010 Well its a green laser which produces a very defined beam. Think pitch darkness with a perfect green circle producing grainy light which looks like you are viewing through a night sight or just like the bbc when they film through night vision. Now transfer to a torch..... the flood to spot size can be adjusted and on the tightest setting its like a laser pointer giving you a 4 inch spot at 50m. withthe spot size adjusted to your field of view through your scope and that zeroed to the scope field of view it gives the impression a night sight through your regular scope. It is an active lightsource i.e it shines just like a lamp but the light produced is in a different spectrum/ wavelenght or other tech gubbins............. at over £500 for the larger torch like lamp its a fraction of the cost of the latest II sights but.............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellebarto Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Is it actually a laser I wonder? I saw these today in my local gunsmith which seemed to be the same thing only using LED's!!! http://gunmart.net/accessories_review/debe...utm_campaign=rl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happypig Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 the ND 3 as listed is actually a laser.............. the deben torch is a lamp which uses leds as the source of illumnation.......... big difference and the price is an issue too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellebarto Posted August 27, 2010 Report Share Posted August 27, 2010 Just seen uttings have a special on the pulsar n550 this weekend! 15% off!! Now that's night vision. Ok not cheap but nit bad for that quality! Think I'm gonna get one at that price! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ellebarto Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Well, friendly US ebayer and a package that says its a gift and we have a £188 ND3 on my desk this morning!! First thoughts are its very well made, packaging and attachments look and feel solid and it switches on so a good start! Shining it under my desk (not attached to a rifle) the green beam looks very narrow even at its widest setting but then that is 1.5ft infront of me. Presumably its a wider beam over distance! Planning to do a zeroing session later on tonight and hopefully will review the kit during this week for anyone thats interested! Still want the Pulsar N550 really but wanted to try a few alternatives before I took the plunge! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ozzy Fudd Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 (edited) nice one, youll like it i guarantee it Edited September 7, 2010 by Ozzy Fudd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shot shot Posted September 7, 2010 Report Share Posted September 7, 2010 Well, friendly US ebayer and a package that says its a gift and we have a £188 ND3 on my desk this morning!! First thoughts are its very well made, packaging and attachments look and feel solid and it switches on so a good start! Shining it under my desk (not attached to a rifle) the green beam looks very narrow even at its widest setting but then that is 1.5ft infront of me. Presumably its a wider beam over distance! Planning to do a zeroing session later on tonight and hopefully will review the kit during this week for anyone thats interested! Still want the Pulsar N550 really but wanted to try a few alternatives before I took the plunge! over 50 yrds that narrow beam is more like 3 yards across Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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