gixer1 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Folks, I have 2 large Rowan trees in my garden about 6ft from the edge of the house and on the border of the driveway - I want rid of these as the majority of debris in the gutters comefrom these trees and they cover the cars in leaves/pollen other stuff.... now my problem is i have heard there is no better way to bring bad "ju-ju" to you than cutting down a Rowan tree..... has anyone heard of this or should i get the Husqy out? a friend has offered to do it so does this transfer the "ju-ju" to him even though i requested the cuts to be made?? Regards Gixer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 DOO DEE DOO DOO! DOO DEE DOO DOO! DOO DEE DOO DOO! The "JU-JU" is out there waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting Do you really want "JU-JU" to get you ?:lol:?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted October 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 DOO DEE DOO DOO! DOO DEE DOO DOO! DOO DEE DOO DOO! The "JU-JU" is out there waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting Do you really want "JU-JU" to get you ?????? You were the person i was going to get to cut it down!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Hi Gixer Have you felled trees before also how large is large as you dont want a tree to fallback on your house. Also have you checked TPO orders or do you live ina conservation area upto 20k per tree if you are and a neigbour splits on you. Regards OTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted October 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 (edited) Hi Gixer Have you felled trees before also how large is large as you dont want a tree to fallback on your house. Also have you checked TPO orders or do you live ina conservation area upto 20k per tree if you are and a neigbour splits on you. Regards OTH It's not too big, it would go in the direction of a landrover, and no conservation orders in the area so it should be fine to cut down....if it wasn't for the ju-ju! The offending trees on the right.... - Edited October 11, 2010 by gixer1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Be it on your head !!!! ................................................................................ Folklore The Rowan tree is one of the most sacred trees in Scottish folk tradition. “Scottish tradition does not allow the use of the tree’s timber, bark, leaves or flowers, nor the cutting of these, except for sacred purposes under special conditions.” (Fife) Rowan is one of the trees associated with Saint Brighid, the Celtic patroness of the arts, healing, smithing, spinning and weaving. Spindles and spinning wheels were traditionally made of Rowan in Scotland and Ireland. Rowan trees planted near stone circles in Scotland were especially powerful. Scottish Fairies were said to hold their celebrations within stone circles protected by Rowan trees. Modern interpretations of the Celtic Ogham place Rowan, called Luis , as the sacred tree of February. Rowan twigs were placed above doorways and barns to protect the inhabitants against misfortune and evil spirits. It was one of the trees sacred to Druids and used for protection against sorcery and evil spirits. The Druids burnt Rowan on funeral pyres, for it also symbolized death and rebirth. The Druid Ovates and Seers burnt Rowan in rites of divination and to invoke spirits, and Druids used Rowan wood in rites of purification. Ancient Bards considered the Rowan the “Tree of Bards”, bringing the gift of inspiration. Rowan is one of the nine sacred woods burnt in the Druids’ Beltaine fire. Rowan is also associated with dragons and serpents - sacred Rowans were once guarded by dragons. In America, the Rowan is usually referred to as Mountain Ash. Most sources maintain that the word “Rowan” is derived from the Norse word rune, which means charm or secret, and runa, which is Sanskrit for magician. However according to Elizabeth Pepper, Rowan is a Scottish word, derived from the Gaelic rudha-an, which means “the red one”. Rune staves were often cut from the rowan tree for amulets by the Norse people who invaded Scotland. In the Christian era, the twigs have been used for protection against witches, sorcery, negative magic and the Evil Eye. Twigs tied in a cross with red thread are affixed to doors and barns to keep the inhabitants and livestock from being enchanted, saying this charm, “Rowan tree and red thread, will put witches to their speed.” . Walking sticks made of rowan are used to protect the user from the spirits of the woods. Rowan is also called the Witch Tree, or Wicken Tree, and can be used for divining precious metals, just as hazel can divine water. Witches used Rowan to increase their psychic powers, for spells of healing, success, protection, and often used the wood for their magic wands. History Practicing folk magic was a sign of witchcraft to the 17th Century Scots. Margaret Barclay was brought to trial for witchcraft in Ayrshire, Scotland, in 1618. The damning evidence found in her possession was a Rowan charm – a Rowan twig tied with red thread for protection. (Pepper) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nipper Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 If you believe that lot , Your going to have a lot of big Scottish fairies dancing around your house ?? That will be real nice for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 It's not too big, it would go in the direction of a landrover, and no conservation orders in the area so it should be fine to cut down....if it wasn't for the ju-ju! The offending trees on the right.... - Not too big Gixer the only thing I would say is make a couple of good wood wedges in case you felling cut is wrong and the tree trying to sit back towards your gaff . I would do the sink cut then cut half way though chain brake on leave the saw in there put the wedge or wedges in . Cut though to make the hinge and being of the ash family make a sapwood cut before the back cut going from the sink cut edges to the meet the back cut to provent spliting on the final felling also a large bar to put in the back cut to aid direction of fall. Also always stand to side of the tree never behind . Kind regards OTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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manxman2 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Looks like they are too close together to swing a hammock between, shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted October 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Not too big Gixer the only thing I would say is make a couple of good wood wedges in case you felling cut is wrong and the tree trying to sit back towards your gaff .I would do the sink cut then cut half way though chain brake on leave the saw in there put the wedge or wedges in . Cut though to make the hinge and being of the ash family make a sapwood cut before the back cut going from the sink cut edges to the meet the back cut to provent spliting on the final felling also a large bar to put in the back cut to aid direction of fall. Also always stand to side of the tree never behind . Kind regards OTH Appreciate it OTH that sounds like spot on advice....it should be little enough to cut all the limbs and that would only leave a 6ft main trunk on both.....as i say it's more the superstition than the job itself.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 DONT DO IT. The witches and warlocks will descend en mass upon your head, leave well alone, clean your gutters out its only a bungalow. Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted October 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 DONT DO IT. The witches and warlocks will descend en mass upon your head, leave well alone, clean your gutters out its only a bungalow. Blackpowder that's what i'm worried about and why i'd like to fool someone else into doing it.....is ju-ju transferable or is it like bad credit on an address? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 never heard of this mumbo jumbo so if you get really scared just pay for me to come up and do it, I'm a lot cheaper than OTH as he wants 1K for a days work I'd do it for half that as I'm generous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 never heard of this mumbo jumbo so if you get really scared just pay for me to come up and do it, I'm a lot cheaper than OTH as he wants 1K for a days work I'd do it for half that as I'm generous Handbag at the ready OTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted October 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 I'd take the bad ju-ju for £500 alex.....!! on a serious note - with it being a new house to us it does make you think twice before pulling the starter cord.....but they are such a nuisance!! anyone who plants trees that close to a house is a fool! and the roots are starting to come through the surface of the lawn which my lawnmower is not happy about... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 get rid sooner rather than later before they interfere with the foundations, replace with shrubs etc that are far smaller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted October 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 get rid sooner rather than later before they interfere with the foundations, replace with shrubs etc that are far smaller Which Shrubs get rid of bad ju-ju?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman2 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Wizard trees. http://www.wizardtrees.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookiemonsterandmerlin. Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 on a serious note - with it being a new house to us it does make you think twice before pulling the starter cord.....but they are such a nuisance!! anyone who plants trees that close to a house is a fool! I am glad you understand the safety factor of the work as one bad cut could cost you a hefty roofing repair bill or worst still your live or injury . I would be intrest to know al4x knowledge of tree felling good and safe plus insured chainsaw users are hard to find there alot who think they know what they are doing . And with a hosue so close you really what to know what you are doing as each tree with sap and foilage would weigh 150 200kgs maybe a little more. Kind regards OTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 Wizard trees. http://www.wizardtrees.com/ now thats run by a load of Nut jobs probably makes them exactly the people to ask Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manxman2 Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 O.K. Try this then How to Plant a Fairy Garden http://www.ehow.com/how_4675274_plant-fairy-garden.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted October 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 on a serious note - with it being a new house to us it does make you think twice before pulling the starter cord.....but they are such a nuisance!! anyone who plants trees that close to a house is a fool! I am glad you understand the safety factor of the work as one bad cut could cost you a hefty roofing repair bill or worst still your live or injury . I would be intrest to know al4x knowledge of tree felling good and safe plus insured chainsaw users are hard to find there alot who think they know what they are doing . And with a hosue so close you really what to know what you are doing as each tree with sap and foilage would weigh 150 200kgs maybe a little more. Kind regards OTH I do realise that, the house originally had alot bigger trees in the surrounding garden which were cut down in a safe fashion....i will be very careful if i cut these down....i'll make sure the strain on the rope to the landrover is at an acceptable level and the one handed chainsaw use while hanging off the house roof is kept to a minimum... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted October 11, 2010 Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 I am glad you understand the safety factor of the work as one bad cut could cost you a hefty roofing repair bill or worst still your live or injury .I would be intrest to know al4x knowledge of tree felling good and safe plus insured chainsaw users are hard to find there alot who think they know what they are doing . 20 years of use ticketed for most elements so not a complete amateur. They are only pissy little trees and if you can't get them to fall away from the house you've a bit of a problem as you could push them over if you cut it right hell we had one this big hit the house and got away with zero damage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted October 11, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 11, 2010 So it's decided Alex.....free stalking when you come up to get rid of the tree's for me.....just make sure you take the ju-ju away too!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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