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[the running man]

try to bear in mind,that the report is written by police,for police,so do think they will look at their collegues with a non bias attitude?

[Mr_Logic]

Well heres one for you all to debate.

 

My daughter has been a bit of shall we say, 'a rebel' at school having been excluded on numerous occasions for refusing to work etc etc.

 

School counsellor had a chat with daughter and me and during this chat I mentioned I had guns in the house...one of the reasons why she was not allowed any of her undesireable friends to visit

 

One evening, after having finished a set of night shifts, I was quietly relaxing when a hammering on the door...9.30pm raised me from my semi sleepy state.

 

2 Police Officers...wanting a chat about my daughter...they said. Chat got around to do I drink much...hmm thought I......do I take drugs...Hmmm even more thought I then am I depressed.....what..

They than got around to my guns, asked to see my guns, security etc and after all this, where do I work, who was my doctor etc.

Without elaborating too much they said the school had contacted them with some concerns...I was gobsmacked but anyway, they left satisfied...or so I thought.

 

Some 2 months later ,my FEO called to see me and started to ask me about some medication I had been prescribed some 3 years previously, the reason it turned out was that one of the uses of my prescription was as an anti depressant although I had been prescribed it for helping me to sleep after carpal Tunnel surgery.

 

He left satisfied....well I hope he did, I have not heard anything else since.

 

A few issues here....The Police contacted my GP without permission, the school said nothing to me about what they had said or thought and I could have lost my certificate based on what the school had alleged...I still dont know the contents as obviously the Police will not tell me.

This is not a criticism of the Police as obviously they had some genuine concerns based upon information passed to them but is an illustration of how easily we could lose our certificates for something which is unknown to us or not really relevant.

The FEO did say that in the light of recent events, Forces have obviously got twitchy over licencing.

 

The school councellor also referred my daughter to Social services with a report that this time I did get to see....wildly inaccurate, defamatory and based on opinion not fact.

 

This report was easily refuted and duly complained about.

I am pleased to say that the counsellor is no longer employed at the school.

 

My renewal is up next year...I am wondering just what will come up then as obviously that report will still be in my file.

Will a future mild depression suddenly trigger a revoke ?

 

I have some concern that I am not being allowed to see this report to address it properly and if this review goes ahead, I am getting worried.

Only consolation is I went to my GP to speak about this and he said he woulg gladly tell them I was no risk and should be allowed to retain my guns.

Sounds like you were very nice about it - that would have made me send a very strongly worded letter of complaint to the school, at the very least. Something on the lines of HOW DARE THEY?!

 

I REALLY resent this stigma that is attached to shooting. it is a lawful pursuit - they won't send the coppers round if I play cricket or baseball, or some other sport with a large lump of wood for a bat involved. Because that's a 'sport'... where shooting of course isn't! Drives me bonkers.

[Dekers]

It depends on how far they go with the medical aspect.

Minor depression is not enough currently to warrant refusal, in fact according to BASC, if you are OK medically to drive a car then you are fit enough to own a gun.

It leaves too much for interpretation depending on a whim.

It also means that people may defer seeking help when they really need it which may lead to a worsening of a condiion.

 

In the killers case, perhaps the threatening behaviour towards a custmer shuld have been the first sign to set alarms going.

Almost all of us will suffer from the blues at some point, most will ignore it and work through it, some may ask thier doctor about it.

Is that going to be sufficient in the future to have our guns removed from us.

 

 

I agree and it does/did, for me anyway.

 

I was not happy and to be honest pretty upset when I was going through a divorce about 10 years ago, all the advice I got was go and see the doctor and get something for your depression...my response was simple, I'll be even more depressed if I did that and lost my guns to!