hutchie the white hunter Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 May be thats the root of the problem, No respect, No manners, no courtesy anymore. Perhaps the chap shooting was just ignorant of the importance of the day. If thats the case its a sad endictment of social morals when you have a church full of villagers paying homage to the fallen of two world wars and numerous other conflicts interupted by the pop pop pop of a gun going off in the distance. Call me old fashioned but there is something rather unethical about that. I ASKED YOU A QUESTION AND YOU DID NOT ANSWER ,SO THAT MUST MAKE YOU DISRESPECTFULL,WITH NO MANNERS,AND UNCOURTEIOUS TOWORDS ME BUT DID I KEEP GOING ON ABOUT IT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillmouse Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 I agree those we remember gave their lives in the name of freedom. Freedom to choose and freedom to express our own opinions. My personal choice is not to fire a gun of any sort on Rememberance Sunday. If others wish to do so then that is a matter for their own conscience, not mine. I would consider it extremely bad form to do so if it were to be within earshot of a Rememberance Service and most definitely were it to be at the 11th hour itself. Other than that, good luck mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchie the white hunter Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 A lot of people have pointed out that it's our right, which brave men fought for, to do whatever we want on Remembrance Sunday, or any other day come to that, and indeed it is. To my mind this is not about people telling you what you can and can't do, clearly that's up to you. I think its about consideration and respect. It's your right, if you want, to refuse to give up your seat on the bus for a disabled person or heavily pregnant woman. It's your right to beep your horn impatiently if a funeral cortege is holding you up on the way to work. It's your right to bang away all morning with a 12 bore 2 fields away from the old Arnhem and young Afghan vets remembering fallen comrades at the local war memorial. Whilst it's undoubtedly your right to do all those things, maybe if you believe in manners, respect and consideration it's not right? That's how l feel and I'm not picking a fight with the majority on here, whose views I'm so clearly out of step with, its also your right to take a different view! Maybe its a local thing? If you shoot pigeons 5 miles from the nearest town or village, then it's not an issue. I live a couple of miles from Mike and I know there are few places you can shoot out of earshot of a village church. The idea of decoying within earshot of some old boy stood to attention and choked with grief as he remembers his comrades is not something I'd like to contemplate. Don't flame me! I can see most disagree, fair do's - I'll respect your views if you respect mine WERE YOU THERE WALKING THE DOGS WITH HIM, WERE YOU ACTUALY THERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Not sure what that's got to do with it, but no. No need to shout BTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchie the white hunter Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Not sure what that's got to do with it, but no. No need to shout BTW Well how would you know how it sounded on that day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted November 15, 2010 Author Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Wind your neck in,ive served 27 years and still serving,i dont need to justify diddly to you matey BB At ease soldier...you started it. Obviously I struck a nerve there. Dont infer I was being hypocritical in my post or in my actions. I have strong feelings about this issue and I will always refrain from shooting on Remembrance day, I always show respect to my elders and peers, I always try and act courteously and in a gentlemanly way and I believe although not necessarily religious that I am a good samaritan, Honest and Loyal. Im not trying to adopt a "holier than though attitude" nor was it my intention to insult you. I still think it was morally wrong of that chap to be shooting at that time, as it would be to not salute a superior officer, take my hat off in church, stand up in the presence of a lady, or offer my seat on a bus to a pregnant lady. (or any lady for that matter) Thats the way My Father and Grandfather ( long deceased veteran of both world wars ) brought me up and those are the values I will adhere to and try and instill in my kids. I still think it wrong that shooting takes place on remembrance Sunday and always will. Thank you. FM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Well how would you know how it sounded on that day Because as I said in my post, there are few (if any) places around here where you can shoot and not be heard in the nearest village. A couple of farmers on my permissions ask me not to shoot at all on any Sunday for that very reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hutchie the white hunter Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 (edited) At ease soldier...you started it. Obviously I struck a nerve there. Dont infer I was being hypocritical in my post or in my actions. I have strong feelings about this issue and I will always refrain from shooting on Remembrance day, I always show respect to my elders and peers, I always try and act courteously and in a gentlemanly way and I believe although not necessarily religious that I am a good samaritan, Honest and Loyal. Im not trying to adopt a "holier than though attitude" nor was it my intention to insult you. I still think it was morally wrong of that chap to be shooting at that time, as it would be to not salute a superior officer, take my hat off in church, stand up in the presence of a lady, or offer my seat on a bus to a pregnant lady. (or any lady for that matter) Thats the way My Father and Grandfather ( long deceased veteran of both world wars ) brought me up and those are the values I will adhere to and try and instill in my kids. I still think it wrong that shooting takes place on remembrance Sunday and always will. Thank you. FM. YEA BIG ADULT ( ) I actually went to two !!! Edited November 15, 2010 by hutchie the white hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 At ease soldier...you started it. Obviously I struck a nerve there. Dont infer I was being hypocritical in my post or in my actions. I have strong feelings about this issue and I will always refrain from shooting on Remembrance day, I always show respect to my elders and peers, I always try and act courteously and in a gentlemanly way and I believe although not necessarily religious that I am a good samaritan, Honest and Loyal. Im not trying to adopt a "holier than though attitude" nor was it my intention to insult you. I still think it was morally wrong of that chap to be shooting at that time, as it would be to not salute a superior officer, take my hat off in church, stand up in the presence of a lady, or offer my seat on a bus to a pregnant lady. (or any lady for that matter) Thats the way My Father and Grandfather ( long deceased veteran of both world wars ) brought me up and those are the values I will adhere to and try and instill in my kids. I still think it wrong that shooting takes place on remembrance Sunday and always will. Thank you. FM. And i dont want to fight you in the playground Mike i actually agree with most of what youve posted,just think it a little harsh the way you put it across,especially the title of your post atb BB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cranfield Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 I think this has been debated enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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