duck shooter 1 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 hi im going hunting crows,rabbits and rats next week with my shotgun but the last time i went i noticed that all of the quarry i got shots at were within 25 yards (which is obviously close for a 12 bore) and im new to shotguns so i foung hitting them with 6 shot harder than hitting clays at that range so i was wondering if clay cartridges would be any good as i have lots of 7 1/2 , 30 gram 70mm cartriges that need used up as clay season has finished for me. any answeres will be helpful thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 they will do the job on that quarry at that range Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune82 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 The size of the shot wont make hitting them any easier. If you werent hitting them with 6's then 7 1/2 aint going to make it any easier, its where you point the gun that matters. I would stick to game cartridges and improve your aim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 You sure the clay carts are 30g? Usually all 28g or less. Keep the clay carts for clays, show your quarry the respect it deserves and buy some game loads, you could always go up a few grams and put more of the bigger pellets in the pattern, 35g of number 5 or 6 is lethal. Personally I usually use 30g of number 6 with no bother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silver pigeon 3 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I have found that a big old carrion needs a good hard hit to kill them outright so personally would not go smaller than a 6. As for struggling to hit live quarry but being able to break clays easily, you have to remember that once a clay has left the trap it will start slowing down whereas live quarry when spooked by you will be accelerating away from danger and increasing in speed. This equates to you needing to give it more forward allowance than you would a clay target. Also think about the line of flight is the bird going directly away from you, crossing or quartering and most birds do not fly in a dead straight line. All of these factors need to be judged in a instant so you know where to aim. Only way to become more consistent is to practice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Yes. At that distance it will kill things. Half of the people who might say otherwise dont do a lot of shooting. :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmobiler1 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 hi im going hunting crows,rabbits and rats next week with my shotgun but the last time i went i noticed that all of the quarry i got shots at were within 25 yards (which is obviously close for a 12 bore) and im new to shotguns so i foung hitting them with 6 shot harder than hitting clays at that range so i was wondering if clay cartridges would be any good as i have lots of 7 1/2 , 30 gram 70mm cartriges that need used up as clay season has finished for me. any answeres will be helpful thanks. I would stick with the ones you are most confident with, just keep shooting as the from 6-7 1/2 will not make a lot of difference at that range if you are on target. Practice makes . . . I thought clay carts were upto 28gram? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillmouse Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Keep your 7.5's for clays, you cannot wound them. For pest/vermin shooting I would use a 28grm 6 as a minimum. My personal choice for rooks,crows etc. is a 32grm no6 shot. Expect more shots at over 25 yards than below that distance, add the odd longer shot and your 7.5's will send a bird off wounded to suffer. Not sporting, not humane. You cannot overkill them. In case you were worried I was one of the 50% who don't shoot much I am a full time gamekeeper and have shot for 35 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluebarrels Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 Keep your 7.5's for clays, you cannot wound them. For pest/vermin shooting I would use a 28grm 6 as a minimum. My personal choice for rooks,crows etc. is a 32grm no6 shot. Expect more shots at over 25 yards than below that distance, add the odd longer shot and your 7.5's will send a bird off wounded to suffer. Not sporting, not humane. You cannot overkill them. In case you were worried I was one of the 50% who don't shoot much I am a full time gamekeeper and have shot for 35 years. And as you say yourself its personal choice 7.5 28gram on crows,maybe not my first choice,however under the right circumstances(crows coming into decoys at a sensible range 25/30 yards)its man enough to do the job Just wait for the 28gram Doubters,they will surely be along very soon BB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yickdaz Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 (edited) 7.5s will kill cleanly at 30 yards no problem done it meself once or twice when run out of 6s.but for consistant kills up to 50 yards 30g or 32g 6s all the way for crows;woodies partridges and pheasants a very versatile shot size in my opinion Edited December 15, 2010 by yickdaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bunny_blaster Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 I use 28 gram 7's for all my decoying. Kills them just aswell as 6's. It's personal choice at the end of the day Cheers Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornet 6 Posted December 15, 2010 Report Share Posted December 15, 2010 For years I used 28 bore, 21 or 24 grams of 7's for everything, "I don't remember anything getting up and saying, is that all you got" Neil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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