welsh warrior Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 im looking for a decent scope but one that has a very fine cross hair and no mil dots.. my reason is beacuse i used a scope today with a very fine cross hair and no mil dots and found it much better than a thick cross hair . its my fault for not asking the make of the scope silly me any help guys ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasons gold Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 im looking for a decent scope but one that has a very fine cross hair and no mil dots.. my reason is beacuse i used a scope today with a very fine cross hair and no mil dots and found it much better than a thick cross hair . its my fault for not asking the make of the scope silly me any help guys ? Most do fine cross hairs just check for the reticule configuration Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 Just take care if its a hunting scope you are after fine target reticules often disapear among the shadows and low light, for B/Rest they are just the job though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasons gold Posted December 23, 2010 Report Share Posted December 23, 2010 Just take care if its a hunting scope you are after fine target reticules often disapear among the shadows and low light, for B/Rest they are just the job though This is very true unless it's a illuminated reticule Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Just take care if its a hunting scope you are after fine target reticules often disapear among the shadows and low light, for B/Rest they are just the job though This is very true unless it's a illuminated reticule ...and about the only time an illuminated ret has any use. Fine reticules come into their own in target and distance shooting, if that's what you are after go for it, there are loads on the market from all sorts of manufacturers. ATB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Duncan Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 I love an illuminated ret for dusk shooting in the summer! Fab kit It helps the reticle stand out against a rabbits silhouetted bonce perfectly. Duncan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh warrior Posted December 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 well i used it on a paper target and found it to be much more better than a thick cross hair could get much tighter groups ..just looking for a simple cross hair scope no mil dots or things on it only thing i want a decent name 200 -350 quid range might push 400 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave 101 Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 Have a look at Edgar Bros. Optimate Target Scopes , they should be in the price range and are good for what you aftter . I have 3 of these and havnt had any problems with them . Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooting charley Posted December 24, 2010 Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 im looking for a decent scope but one that has a very fine cross hair and no mil dots.. my reason is beacuse i used a scope today with a very fine cross hair and no mil dots and found it much better than a thick cross hair . its my fault for not asking the make of the scope silly me any help guys ? I have a Tasco Gold Medal Plus 8x32x50 if you are interested it has the finest cross hairs i have ever seen. PM me if you are interested. Shootingcharley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh warrior Posted December 24, 2010 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2010 got it down to these guys ...... Hawke Frontier Side Focus 8-32x50 SF Rifle Scope Leupold VX-II 3-9x33 Rimfire EFR Rifle Scope MTC Optics Viper Connect 3-12x32 Rifle Scope will be using it on 17 hmr rifle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colster Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 If you're not trying to shoot to the very last bit of daylight I'd say the Leupold. Small front ends give better depth of field so parallax focus is less of an issue but obviously don't gather as much light. Having said that a small front ended quality scope will last longer into twilight than a big front end rubbish scope. From your list I would expect the Hawke to hold up possibly a bit longer into twilight than the other two but if last light isn't an issue then Leupold. I have a 36mm front end Leupold on my .243 and the 56mm Zieler on my HMR will work better in very low light but the difference is pretty slight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted December 27, 2010 Report Share Posted December 27, 2010 Light is not soley controled by objective size 4x32,6x42, 8x56 of the same quality glass should all be equally bright as they all have a 7mm exit pupil. Better glass will always beat cheapo stuff regardless of this maths though! On the subject of illuminated reticules only the best are worthwhile cheap ones tend to be very bright generally and this serves only to spoil your own low light vision in the eye, higher spec ones such as those in my old nightforce are great though personally i prefer the slightly thicker reticule intersection like those on the s+benders i have today as in practice the target will be unclear long before you loose the reticule in the gloom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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