Mungler Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 I have had top of the range Zeiss and just never got on with them - I didn't like the eye relief. Maybe that's just me or just the scopes I had. I must have had well over a dozen assorted Swaro and S&B's scopes and have never been disappointed by any one of the them. In the round, I still reckon S&B represents the best value for money quality scope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilentKill Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 I have had top of the range Zeiss and just never got on with them - I didn't like the eye relief. Maybe that's just me or just the scopes I had. I must have had well over a dozen assorted Swaro and S&B's scopes and have never been disappointed by any one of the them. In the round, I still reckon S&B represents the best value for money quality scope. oddly enough i was looking at my mates new Blazer R8 the other day and he has a zeiss scope on it! whilst i liked the glass the eye relief was not for me it was far to close for my liking! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted January 27, 2011 Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 a fox through an 8 x 56 S & B.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jock16f Posted January 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2011 hey vipa i was looking at z6i today looks good i also looked at the s+b pm2 56mm not much between them to be honest which do you think i have given up on the zeiss cant get mounts to fit rifle ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 hey vipa i was looking at z6i today looks good i also looked at the s+b pm2 56mm not much between them to be honest which do you think i have given up on the zeiss cant get mounts to fit rifle ? you can get them but depending on rifle they can be a pain to source Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Gixer1, post of the day for me, thanks for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Gixer1, post of the day for me, thanks for that It must've hit a nerve.....i got a good PM over it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 **** is it one you can post up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) Cause it's you Alex! Edited January 28, 2011 by Dunkield pm removed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I didn't know you Aberdeen lads were famous for sheep molestation at that point you can spot the person who has never looked through an 8x56, not school holidays yet is it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 I didn't know you Aberdeen lads were famous for sheep molestation at that point you can spot the person who has never looked through an 8x56, not school holidays yet is it We're not famous...were renowned! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 Interesting user name the OP has, one day you would have thought that belonged to a 16 year old scottish lass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted January 28, 2011 Report Share Posted January 28, 2011 (edited) hey vipa i was looking at z6i today looks good i also looked at the s+b pm2 56mm not much between them to be honest which do you think i have given up on the zeiss cant get mounts to fit rifle ? It really depends what the rifle is going to be used for... and you need to be completely honest with yourself here as, buying one over the other for anything other than the correct reasons will be an expensive mistake to make. If the rifle is GENUINLY going to be used more than 50% of it's time in the field (i.e. shooting live quarry) then get a Z6i in whichever mag set you feel is relevant to your shooting. If it is going to spend more than 50% of it's time on the range, then get the PMII. The reticles available for the PMII are all designed to help with ranging based, normally, on the known size of things (buildings, vehicles, human beings!) They become almost useless in the field as the difference between the size of 2 animals can be great (thinking of deer here primarily, 2 examples of the same species can vary wildly in height) and so the ranging features of the ret won't work. Take the ranging funcionality out of the equasion and what you are left with is a bulky, heavy piece of glass with target turrets that may have been moved off zero when you take the shot and reticles with so much information in them that they will just confuse and let doubt creep in. The upshot is potential misses or worse... injured beasts. You are also paying a lot of money for advanced mechanics in these babies which will allow you to dial in up to 270 clicks of elevation (2000m with the right calibre and ammunition!) You simply don't need this in the field. With the Z6 or 6i you have a simple crosshair... put the crosshair on the target and squeeze the trigger, simple! if it is a little further out and you can range it, then just dial it in on the ballistic turret, even more simple... All this for less money, considerably less weight and bulk and the same quality of glass.... Remember, the S&B has been developed to survive the battlefield and it's cost and weight is testimony to that... Again... if you are target shooting and need the adjustment, rangefinding ability (practical rifle comps) and range (or if you are in law enforcement or the forces) then get the Schmidt... If you don't or aren't then get the Swaro. Paul Edited January 28, 2011 by Vipa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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