Reload Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 (edited) Hi all, I have a Sako M75 .223 action in need of a new stock. I found 1 on the bay the other day but didn't buy it as I wasn't sure if it would fit my action. I'm sure mine is the "I" stock and the synthetic stock I found was a "V" for a 300 Win Mag. Can anyone tell me if my action would fit the "V"? I'm assuming the "V" model stock will be too large. Edited April 14, 2011 by Reload Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 14, 2011 Report Share Posted April 14, 2011 Hi all, I have a Sako M75 .223 action in need of a new stock. I found 1 on the bay the other day but didn't buy it as I wasn't sure if it would fit my action. I'm sure mine is the "I" stock and the synthetic stock I found was a "V" for a 300 Win Mag. Can anyone tell me if my action would fit the "V"? I'm assuming the "V" model stock will be too large. you need the 1 the inletting will be done for that action size. are you aware that mcmillan do a direct copy of the sako hunter stock? Jacksons might even have one in stock. i have a sako 75 action 3 stock spare here but it wont fit like i say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reload Posted April 15, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Yeah, as I thought. I don't know who Jacksons or McMillan are, can you put a link up please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rem223 Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Google is your friend..... http://www.mcmfamily.com/ http://www.jacksonrifles.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted April 15, 2011 Report Share Posted April 15, 2011 Ring round the Custom Rifle builders, many have take off stocks at bargain prices such as Riflecraft etc. A McMillan will cost you as much as your gun is worth after fitting and for no great benefit on a Sako. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reload Posted April 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Thanks for your replies lads JRDS, I rang Riflecraft and they had 1 in from a customer... Right result at 100 quid. not synthetic, but hey beggars can't be choosers, eh... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Thanks for your replies lads JRDS, I rang Riflecraft and they had 1 in from a customer... Right result at 100 quid. not synthetic, but hey beggars can't be choosers, eh... A bargain, glad you got sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Ring round the Custom Rifle builders, many have take off stocks at bargain prices such as Riflecraft etc. A McMillan will cost you as much as your gun is worth after fitting and for no great benefit on a Sako. a std hunter stock from mcmillan is a great investment on a 75. its not what a gun is worth in its present state, the sako 75 is a better mag fed action than many custom attempts at the same ends in my experiance, flat bed, triple lugs and stone reliable double stack feed. Putting the Mac on one then changing the tube as and when required in the future only puts you into a gun that would cost over £3000 to build out of not so good componants. Have you ever looked at action prices and compared I couldn't say the same for the 85 though i think the accountants and marketing folk had too much say and the engineers too little in that one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 a std hunter stock from mcmillan is a great investment on a 75. its not what a gun is worth in its present state, the sako 75 is a better mag fed action than many custom attempts at the same ends in my experiance, flat bed, triple lugs and stone reliable double stack feed. Putting the Mac on one then changing the tube as and when required in the future only puts you into a gun that would cost over £3000 to build out of not so good componants. Have you ever looked at action prices and compared I couldn't say the same for the 85 though i think the accountants and marketing folk had too much say and the engineers too little in that one! Yes I have know what custom action's and custom rifles cost but can't see how it is relevant to this thread. All I can say is I have 4 Sako rifles all with factory furniture and they all shoot exceptionally well, certainly for my needs as I use them for hunting not competitive shooting. I know McMillan make good stocks but I couldn't practically see any benefit at all in spending £600 or so plus fitting for a replacement stock on any of my 4 rifles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 Yes I have know what custom action's and custom rifles cost but can't see how it is relevant to this thread. All I can say is I have 4 Sako rifles all with factory furniture and they all shoot exceptionally well, certainly for my needs as I use them for hunting not competitive shooting. I know McMillan make good stocks but I couldn't practically see any benefit at all in spending £600 or so plus fitting for a replacement stock on any of my 4 rifles. Because the darn things don't loose zero under changing climatic conditions, are totally uneffected by rain, do not compress under differing action screw pressure and bed fantastically well. In short it is not a cosmetic thing, i feel many Hunters would get what they are looking for in the terms of repeatable one shot accuraccy better by changing thier stock and bedding over and above wasting cash on target grade barrels were only fairly meaningless gains are made to a hunter. A Hunter stock should cost you £600 you state i think i paid about half that (a few years ago though i did pay that sort of figure for my A5 with loads of extras on it) Zero shift is a very real thing with wood stocks, far more previlent today with the shortage of good wood. Std plastic shrugs off the rain and blood / mud etc but tends to have very bendy forearms that close off the free float under presure and fail to make good contact with the tang and recoil lug due to molding tollerances and take most bedding compounds i have tried very poorly to correct this. The point pertaing is the cost is deffinatly worth it i feel, you claimed it wasn't. Add up the costs of a stockless 75 barreled action and the mac. Why do you think riflesmiths have std factory stocks spare on the shelves? because people think its worthwhile, obviously you don't though which is your perogative Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 (edited) No I don't you are right, looking at Jacksons Inventory McMillan Sako stocks range between £418 - £731. I have never any issues with my rifles losing zero etc due the stocks warping, maybe I don't shoot in harsh enough conditions. I appreciate they are probably one of the ultimate stocks in terms of performance but unless you are shooting in extreme conditions I really don't think they offer any real world advantages over the Sako factory stocks which are very good in their own right. Edited April 23, 2011 by JRDS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted April 23, 2011 Report Share Posted April 23, 2011 your both right,, calm down and have a cup of tea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 25, 2011 Report Share Posted April 25, 2011 No I don't you are right, looking at Jacksons Inventory McMillan Sako stocks range between £418 - £731. I have never any issues with my rifles losing zero etc due the stocks warping, maybe I don't shoot in harsh enough conditions. I appreciate they are probably one of the ultimate stocks in terms of performance but unless you are shooting in extreme conditions I really don't think they offer any real world advantages over the Sako factory stocks which are very good in their own right. You said £600 + fitting - good grief they will go staight on its only two screws. £418 will be for the hunter stock, its like £200 cheaper than you suggested , thats £418 retail through your RFD also if you have an RFD who is happy to just take delivery for a drink or favour returned it will maybee be less (jacksons won't sell direct and won't talk money other than list for that reason) Keep your hair on many of us do shoot in changing conditions, i like wood- it smells good on a dry summers morning and feels great against the cheek on a cold morning but it just can't handle it in the real world that i experiance out in the field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamie g Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 i cant see the point in paying all that money for a mcmillan stock if you are not going to have it bedded. you might as well keep the standard sako stock have that bedded and save some dosh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 i cant see the point in paying all that money for a mcmillan stock if you are not going to have it bedded. you might as well keep the standard sako stock have that bedded and save some dosh. personally i bed all my centrefires it isn't a black art you know, a little know how and a little care. the whole point of the mc millan type stock is not tighter groups, that is down to the bedding and the mecanical / engineering bits. Its all about holding zero through temparature and humidity changes. The only pertaining point in relation to bedding is a Mac for hunting don't realy need pillars as the stock itself will not actually alter its resistance to the action scews. On a competition gun were just cutting the line or just outside it matters i would and do fit pillars, if it makes a big difference is going to be difficult to prove though, however not installing pillars to a walnut stock when you bed it is largely a waste of time as the contact presure will change with the climate anyway as the wood moves, still you wont get the results of the composite stocks. Think of the wooden front door and how it changes tight in winter and slack in summer If your walnut stocked gun is always kept and used in the same temprature and humidity then you definatly dont need a composite stock to retain perfect zero, if its kept in a central heated room then taken outside on a cold damp day, travels in an climate controled car for a few hours then goes out on a freezing hill you might want to consider one. Are they esential nope, but then again neither are telescopic sights, bipods, moderators etc. You sort of use them or you don't but do try and understand all these things and what they actually do for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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