freelancer Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Being new to air rifles I know diddly squat about cleaning and maintaining my new rifle. It's a .22 springer and I'm thinking about buying this and this. The reason I'd be buying the items from that website is because the guy who owns it owes me. Also, does anyone know of a good website that details how to maintain my rifle? Thanks for any help! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flash Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 really it depends what rifle it is, but i warn u that if it is one of those custom chinese air rifles that u get for £50 odd quid i advise you dont ask much as the response may be alon the lines of get a new air rifle. cheers, no offence meant if any felt. cheers flash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freelancer Posted April 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 It's a Webley sport. Made in Spain but that can't be as bad as China! Practically everything made in China is utter cack. So what do you think with relation to cleaning and maintaining it? Whatabout those products in my first post. Any good? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunter Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 (edited) you wont need the barrel cleaning kit.. an airgun does not really leave lead or copper deposits in the bore as the power is fairly low, and the pellets friction is a lot less. Unlike a firearm. The gun oil is good.. the best maintainance you can give a springer is to wipe over the gun with oil after you have used it. Other then that, you wont have to do much maintainance at all.. tighten the stock screws now and then, as loose screws will have a big impact on the acuracy of a springer. Have fun thats what they are built for.. Edited April 10, 2006 by Hunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freelancer Posted April 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Okay but what about applying oil ot the moving parts such as the piece of metal that's attached to the barrel that pushes into the rifle when you break the barrel? I have no idea what it's called! And whatabout cleaning dust and dirt etc that get's inside the barrel? That's why I thought of the cleaning kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Never used them but some people swear by the felt cleaning pellets. Fire them out until they are clean. Just be careful because they will have your eye out despite being felt!! Or a "Blue Peter" version is to use cigarette filter tips. Cheap and cheerful, just like me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe312 Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 if they do get very dirty ie grit, sand in the i just use a small amount of degresser on "jaws" of the break careful not to get any inside trasfer port as this will work back to the piston and spring and things will go very wrong. the to re lubricate a very very small amount of vp90 grease. just on the moving parts of the break. if you want talking through it send us a pm with you number and i'l explain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freelancer Posted April 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 if you want talking through it send us a pm with you number and i'l explain. Ok mate. I've got that Bisley gun oil on the way. When it arrives I'll PM you my number. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Having HAD a webley sport i can tell you they DO last longer than the Chinese rifles BUT are just about as bad when accuracy was concerned. I had mine a week took it back got a replacement and sent that back for a refund You would poss be better off saving for a good secondhand HW77 HW80 HW90 etc Or Air Arms TX200 etc I understand a lot of people who start off are on a tight budget but then they buy a cheap (make do) gun and they find it SO unrewarding with poor accuracy ect they get sick and give in. Buying a quality rifle (even though it means a lot of saving) can make all the difference. Hope you have fun LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freelancer Posted April 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Lord Geordie, I totally understand where you're coming from. It's better to spend the extra and get a quality product whatever you're buying. However, I'm on a super tight budget right now due to debt and it wont be until the latter half of 2006 that I could afford to save for something better. I bought the Webley sport because the chap in my local gun store assured me that it's a great starter rifle: Easy to handle etc. It should be just fine for 10-30 metre target plinking. ...Shouldn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 10 meter targets yeah but you MAY find the 30 mter a challange As i say i had 2 and they BOTH went back. There is every chance you got a decent one but i never :look: Still i just moved on and go a Old Diana i beleive it was a 34 and needed rescued from tin worm Made a smashing rifle once done and accounted for MANY rabbits. You will have to do a 30M target card and post your Pic of the card when done. reg LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freelancer Posted April 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 (edited) You will have to do a 30M target card and post your Pic of the card when done. reg LG Okay. Will do. But it might not necessarily mean that the rifle is faulty if I get a bad grouping. It might be that the rifle is sound but I'm not a very good shot yet. Edited April 10, 2006 by freelancer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 (edited) You will have to do a 30M target card and post your Pic of the card when done. reg LG Okay. Will do. But it might not necessarily mean that the rifle is faulty if I get a bad grouping. It might be that the rifle is sound but I'm not a very good shot yet. NP bud i know where your comming from we all have to start somewhere You will find Springers are harder to learn to shoot with that PCPs the springers are lively. Loads to learn from breathing techniques to making sure you hold the rifle the same way for each shot. Different stances is a good idea to find what your best at. Standing / rested / prone / seated etc If your grip changes from shot to shot them you POI will most likely change also. I saw an old bloke in his 60s shooting an old springer at the club on a 50 yard range knocking the targets over that OTHERS were having trouble doing with their pricey PCP's and scopes. It was MAGIC to watch these guys faces BEATEN by an old man and his springer. Springers can be good rifles as often is the case it's NOT the rifle it's the person USING it. reg LG Edited April 10, 2006 by Lord Geordie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freelancer Posted April 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Loads to learn from breathing techniques to making sure you hold the rifle the same way for each shot. Well I tend to hold my breath or a few seconds before taking the shot. This seems to keep it relatively still. However, it also puts pressure on me to take the shot before I turn blue! I don't know if this is the correct technique or not. Different stances is a good idea to find what your best at. Standing / rested / prone / seated etc For me it has to be prone. Standing or kneeling I find that I can't hold the rifle very level. Prone, with both elbows on the floor, has been best for me. Again, I don't know if this is the correct technique or not. Cheers, Col Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Holding your breath is A technique but very limiting as after a few seconds you start to waver about They say the Best is to take 3 deep breaths in and out on the last EXHALE you are the most relaxed and it is THEN it is best to take the shot As for Positions it don't really matter as long as you have a good open view of your target. Find what is most comfortabe for YOU and that should be fine. It all comes with time and experience. Reading Airgun mags etc always helps as there is ALWAYS something new to learn. Even the 80 year olds still learn new things every day Over time you will pick up tips and put them to use to your own advantage some will work for you but others may not each person is different. Reg LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theskyfox Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 (edited) Hi, Yeah the cleaning kit and gun oil are generally a good idea. Personally I like to wipe a thin layer of oil over the whole gun when finished to remove marks and fingerprints. Remember that your hands have a natural acidity so its a good idea to clean it up after....as for the barrel cleaning kit thats also a good idea....I like to clean mine every 1000 pellets or so (remember dont put oil down the barrel!!!)...you DO get lead deposits in there that can affect accuracy if allowed to build up. Use common sense to tell u where oil is needed with regards to moving parts. Also its probably an idea to buy some barrel cleaner which you put the end of one of the cleaning rod in....it helps remove debris and prevent corrosion from the inside of the barrel. Hope it helps -Andrew Edited April 10, 2006 by Theskyfox Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkeye Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 LG which club / range do you shoot at mate ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 LG which club / range do you shoot at mate ?? Steve Smiths in Dinnington LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freelancer Posted April 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 ....as for the barrel cleaning kit thats also a good idea....I like to clean mine every 1000 pellets or so (remember dont put oil down the barrel!!!)... Someone said earlier in this thread not to bother with the barrel cleaning kit... So I didn't order it! LGwhich club / range do you shoot at mate ?? I don't yet. I'm going to join the range which is just up the road from me. It's the Mendip shooting ground near Wells in Somerset. £30 membership for the year and £1 thereafter for every day you're on the range. They also have a gun shop. LG which club / range do you shoot at mate ?? Steve Smiths in Dinnington LG Funnily enough I got ****** in the Dinnington pub in 1990 when I was in the army cadets I don't live too far from there. It's a nice part of the world. Incidently here's a webcam pic of my sport now that the 'Webley silver' scope is fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitelegghw77k Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 The problem with the barrel cleaning kits is the rods. If you apply and sideways pressure when rodding, you could mess up the crown at the end of the barrel, with dire consequences for your accuracy. Stick to a length of string with a bit of J-cloth on the end, and pull it through. Also fire cigarette filter tips (the ones for roll ups) down the barrel. That should give it a good clean out. Best not to put ANYTHING liquid in the barrel. I made the mistake of WD40ing one once. It took me ages to get it to calm down again, the pellets were coming out at a scary speed, accompanied by a fair bit of smoke Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe312 Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 don't mess with rods, it will all go wrong bought a bsa supersport once that someone knock the inside with... too easy to do don't do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 If you can get them, use the cord pull throughs that the military use, they have a brass attachment at each end, one for standard cleaning patches and the other for the copper wire brush. they seem to be in two sizes, both will fit in a .22 but one fits a little easier, i think its something to do with the cord expanding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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