fulltimeshooter Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 im on a tight budget and need something i can rest a underleaver spring airgun on ive tried my gun slip when laying down but it isnt really big enougth even when folded in half. I do not really want to carry sticks around with me as it just adds to the weight so any good suggestions on i.e a cheap gun rest or something i can make myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulltimeshooter Posted April 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 someone must have a good idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kip270 Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Springer air-rifle's do not shoot well if you try to rest them. Why do you want to rest it?? Shooting with a springer is as easy or hard as you make it. A bit more detail may help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulltimeshooter Posted April 10, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Springer air-rifle's do not shoot well if you try to rest them.Why do you want to rest it?? Shooting with a springer is as easy or hard as you make it. A bit more detail may help i need to rest it as this is a quite heavy air gun due to the large scope and find i cannot hold it still enougth for free handing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 I agree with kip in that springers dont rest to well, but on a soft rest they are fine. Sticks are not heavy at all, try and rest the rifle on your hand on the sticks, if you cant use sticks you need a PCP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Go to a camping shop and get a stuff sack and fill it with foam/polestyrene/cloth and use that it works a treat and the sack can be used end on or flat to give different heights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitelegghw77k Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Get one of the mini tripods, for a digital camera, one with solid legs not flexy legs. Find a nut that suits the thread on top, and bolt on a 3 - 4 inch length of semicircular plastic gutter. Then line this with some padding. Result a very light minipod, thet is NOT attached to the rifle. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe312 Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 for plinking in the garden a old duvey works a treat for real, in the feild work you just need to strenghten your for arms up and inmprove your stand. as i said my little girl can shoot a hw 80 and my goldstar without a problem due to practce and tecnique. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Just practice the prone shooting position. It is by far the best technique, nothing to rely on and always available! Having done a little research on the subject of bi-pods and springers I am now of the opinion that if the 'pod is used to STEADY the rifle and not rest on it can be of some use in the field. However prone shooting regardless of how the shot is taken will alter the point of impact compared to standing and taking the shot. Just a case of home work and adjusting accordinglty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freelancer Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Having done a little research on the subject of bi-pods and springers I am now of the opinion that if the 'pod is used to STEADY the rifle and not rest on it can be of some use in the field. So in other words, apply some gentle upwards force to the stock of the rifle whilst keeping the bipod on the ground? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNAKEBITE Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Having done a little research on the subject of bi-pods and springers I am now of the opinion that if the 'pod is used to STEADY the rifle and not rest on it can be of some use in the field. So in other words, apply some gentle upwards force to the stock of the rifle whilst keeping the bipod on the ground? More of a case of limiting it to the lightest possible pressure on the 'pod whilst maintaining your normal prone position. Just use it as a steady rather than a rest. If you know what I mean. Have a go and find the best way for yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulltimeshooter Posted April 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 TOP MEN Thanx guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 A month doing weights every day is a good long term practical solution start off with a dumbell weight you can do 6 times and do that 3 times per day. at 14 years old I had no probs with a HW77 with scope and silencer and I was quite smal at that age Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulltimeshooter Posted April 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 (edited) A month doing weights every day is a good long term practical solution start off with a dumbell weight you can do 6 times and do that 3 times per day. at 14 years old I had no probs with a HW77 with scope and silencer and I was quite smal at that age Dave i already do weights and am quite big for 14 but the gun combined with the scope is quite heavy. It isnt that i cannot hold the gun it is that i cannot hold it still enougth. Edited April 11, 2006 by fulltimeshooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batmancaver Posted April 11, 2006 Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 Hi Mate If you don't mind a little bit of DIY, give these shooting sticks a try. http://www.varmintal.com/abifu.htm They might not work with a springer, as others have said most springers do not like to be rested much. However, they do work quite well with my BSA Lightning XL. Just make sure that you use some padding on the supports. They will only cost you a couple of quid to make, so worth giving it a try. If they don't work with your springer, put them aside and keep them till you get yourself a PCP. Karl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulltimeshooter Posted April 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 11, 2006 thnx for that ill make one of those ive still got about 1 week off school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fulltimeshooter Posted April 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 Hi Mate If you don't mind a little bit of DIY, give these shooting sticks a try. http://www.varmintal.com/abifu.htm They might not work with a springer, as others have said most springers do not like to be rested much. However, they do work quite well with my BSA Lightning XL. Just make sure that you use some padding on the supports. They will only cost you a couple of quid to make, so worth giving it a try. If they don't work with your springer, put them aside and keep them till you get yourself a PCP. Karl Thanks for the tip i made one just an hour ago it really works great.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coupe312 Posted April 12, 2006 Report Share Posted April 12, 2006 springer is the best and cheapest way to learn and shoot. the main control muscle for holding a rifle steady laterially is the rotory cuff muscle ( hope its spelt right). don't stress over your weights. build that muscle up. building all the others up will just cause problem and put more strain on the RC. alot of people including body builder neglect to build it up a really weaken you great and hold. its one o fthe main muscle for arm wesseling. easy to do pm me and it explain how to do it if you can find it on the internet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandyman Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 http://img137.imageshack.us/my.php?image=4defc6b98je.jpg this is mine its a very light camera stand that goes up in this stage thats ideal for sitting or laying down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dandyman Posted April 15, 2006 Report Share Posted April 15, 2006 cant put the other pics up it keeps saying there too big , it goes all the way up so you can stand and shoot , like i say its very light weight and sturdy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roblade Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 so whats worng with the FT shooting position? no messing about with bipods or other forms of support. and the best bit is no prone shooting so easy to get a quick second shot ROB ps search google for the BFTA technical skills manual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOLTA Posted April 17, 2006 Report Share Posted April 17, 2006 the main control muscle for holding a rifle steady laterially is the rotory cuff muscle ( hope its spelt right). don't stress over your weights. build that muscle up. building all the others up will just cause problem and put more strain on the RC. alot of people including body builder neglect to build it up a really weaken you great and hold. its one o fthe main muscle for arm wesseling. easy to do pm me and it explain how to do it if you can find it on the internet Hi, I do not believe I heard right in this matter, did I ? You are suggesting only to train one particular muscle group and forget about the other muscle groups in your whole body. This will for sure lead to unbalance in the body structure and not given your more overall strength or power. Actually, you can weaken this muscle group if you train it too hard. To get a stronger body you most train the whole body involving as many muscle groups as you can. Of course if your reach a certain level of strongness or want to develop a certain muscle group you may have to change your strategy in this process. Training the whole body will give you more strength and support that special muscle group you want to enlarge. Besides, training only one muscle group do not in any way give you more staying power nor does it give more lung capacity or help the blood circulation. Nor would you gain any form for speed through the whole body if you only train one muscle group - people lifting weights have much faster reaction time than those who do not train with weights. This also incl. the biggest bodybuilders, they are in no way slower in reaction time than a normal man. There is no shortcuts in getting stronger you must train hard and stay in that pace in a long time before you muscles startes to develop and you get stronger. Someone mentioned a month here, this chap does obviously not know anything about bodybuilding or getting stronger by lifting weights. This takes SEVERAL month, perhaps you will gain some strength in a period over 6 month but first after one year of full intensive training you will see some good results. Of course this is without any form for doping. I have trained weight lifting for several years now. This is only hometraining and right now I am taking a break. In that time my body have got stronger and more developed but as soon as you stop training you will start to loose some of the strength you have build up - just some few month will make a big difference in strength capacity. So you have to train regulary if you want to stay in top shape and not loosing power. Another thing about training the whole body. Many of us Europeans do actually have a great strength in our upper bodies but not much in the legs. So we must actually pay more attension to the training of the lower part of the body than to the upper part if we want equal strength in both upper and lower parts of the body. Those people who live and walk much in the mountains have it reversed. They have much stronger legs than upper bodies so they have to pay attension to their upper bodies to get equal strength. Cheers - Bolta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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