dan-250 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 hi guys, im really confused about this, as this side of shooting is totally new to me. i've got a new bit of permission now that gives me enough land to justify having a shotgun with enough open land, but im puzzled how to go about this. im going clay shooting to get the feel of it next weekend with a fellow work mate (to see how many i miss) and to have a go with his guns, but he's got kids of his own and doesnt have time to chat around all day as hes in land rover projects too. just wondering what you guys think is a good starter gun for pigeons is ? as i'll keep my air rifle for rabbits and the odd sitters. what i really need help with is what do i apply for ? i no there is some forms i need to fill in which ive seen on basc as im a member on there, but it doesnt say anything about land or reasons why i want one, it only asks about storage for them. how do i get a cabinet check and where would the best place be to store them ? is the attic ok, in the coat cupboard, or even the garage attached to the house ? id prefer it in the coat cupboard for ease of use but then again that could go agianst it, if its easy to get too. i live in a quiet area, we very rarey have trouble in the village. also what other things do i need to apply for ? if im on land and have permission do i need to be a member of a club ? i have a hide/decoys ready for the off. but i guess i'll miss harvest this year unless i can get on it sharpish and the police work overtime. any info is highly appreciated, cheers Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmitemania Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) Fill out the SGC application form, make sure you get the photo's signed enough times including one by yourself to say its you :wacko: always seems silly to me, and get it in the post, the cabinet needs to be bolted to something secure, mine is in a built in wardrobe bolted to a brick wall, put your air rifle in it as this shows willing and you a saftey concious, and then just wait for the FAO to visit, answer his questions calmly and dont BS him he asked if I had any experience with shotguns and I had shot clays twice, but had had air rifles since the age of 12 or 13, so I was au fait with gun saftey, when asked why you want a shotgun all you need to say is to for clay shooting, this will satisfy him without possibly having to go into lengthy disscusions about permissions and the like, once he has visited providing he does not find any problems, just sit back and wait for the cert. (PS dont forget to enclose a cheque) Edited June 24, 2011 by marmitemania Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) For SGC on mainland (Uk) you don't need a reason or land just need the cheif constable Not have a reason to deny one Coat cupboard is ideal, most FEO's don't like attics or garages! Edited June 24, 2011 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pg123 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) Hi Dan Just been through the application myself. Get on google and do a search for your local police firearms division. You can print off a shotgun certificate application form and send it off with a cheque to cover the fee (£50). You will need to prove to a local firearms officer that you have safe storage for your guns. You will need a cabinet that meets the latest legal requirements and it should be securly bolted to a solid wall. You will find plenty of advice if you search around on the internet. Also worth phoning your local firearms division and asking for their advice, guy from Lancashire police who visited me was really helpful. Edited June 24, 2011 by pg123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 You have permission on land to shoot then you are half way there.You can ring your local police firearms dept. and they will post you the relevant forms-these are relatively simple to complete but you will need at least 2 people (i think) who have known you for a certain period of time to fill in some of the form and sign the passport size pictures of you that are needed with your application.Once completed you send the forms back to the firearms dept along with your payment and then wait to hear from your FEO(firearms enquiry officer).Your FEO will make an appointment to visit you at home and inspect your security situation.Whilst waiting for this you should buy an approved cabinet and fit it as per regulations.At the same time you can start visiting gun shops and selecting the best gun for you-most common would be a 12gauge over/under with a single trigger and either multi-choked or fixed at about 1/4 and 3/4 -a Browning medalist would be a wise choice but there are thousands to choose from. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan-250 Posted June 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Fill out the SGC application form, make sure you get the photo's signed enough times including one by yourself to say its you :wacko: always seems silly to me, and get it in the post, the cabinet needs to be bolted to something secure, mine is in a built in wardrobe bolted to a brick wall, put your air rifle in it as this shows willing and you a saftey concious, and then just wait for the FAO to visit, answer his questions calmly and dont BS him he asked if I had any experience with shotguns and I had shot clays twice, but had had air rifles since the age of 12 or 13, so I was au fait with gun saftey, when asked why you want a shotgun all you need to say is to for clay shooting, this will satisfy him without possibly having to go into lengthy disscusions about permissions and the like, once he has visited providing he does not find any problems, just sit back and wait for the cert. (PS dont forget to enclose a cheque) cheers, so im not missing a form then, i am safety concious and i will not shoot unless i no it will go down in 1, and have plenty of open fields behind me , into the floor or with a backstop, maybe silly really as its only an air rifle but better safe then sorry. i enjoy shooting and wouldnt want to loose it. would it matter i have a police record from 5 years ago with a warning on it. (some friends had stole a moped and i was in the wrong place at the wrong time as i went round his house to deliver the paper, and ended up talking then getteing arrested when the police came round. my friend said it had nothing to do with me but i still got interviewed and then realeased on a warning as i'd been involved with stolen property, i think they was bored that day and needed said numbers up, thats the only time ive been in trouble with the police). i'll declare this as they said it goes after 5 years and dont have to mention it after 3 but im a honest type of lad. if i say its for clays can i only use it for clays or are they an open type then ? or am i thinking of fire arms certs where they have to be registered to land ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan-250 Posted June 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 thanks for the info guys, top lads on here. ignore some of the post above youve answered this mainly, it takes me that long to type id not seen the other replys. i have some photos spare from around 6 months ago for my passport, so looks like i have most of what i need. again cheers chaps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmitemania Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 I dont think the moped thing will cause any problems, no if you say about the clays it wont restrict you to just shooting clays, I think its just saves possible probing about permissions you might or might not have, you must obviosly always seek permission before shooting anywhere though, I have never shot clays with my own gun though, they tend not to do any harm to the crops and I dont think they would taste very nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan-250 Posted June 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 I dont think the moped thing will cause any problems, no if you say about the clays it wont restrict you to just shooting clays, I think its just saves possible probing about permissions you might or might not have, you must obviosly always seek permission before shooting anywhere though, I have never shot clays with my own gun though, they tend not to do any harm to the crops and I dont think they would taste very nice. it would be a tad crunchy in some buns too at a guess, would give the dentists plenty of work .im in easy contact with the farmer and another permission i have is for a magistrate at lincoln court, which i presume would be a good reference aswell, i always say when im going or leave a note in the porch if its early Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmitemania Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marmitemania Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Ignore the last post computer is having a bad day I think its tired like me, tell him the pemissions you have are for your air rifle as it may seem a little forward if he thinks you are seeking permissions when you dont have your SGC yet on seconfd thoughts it shows keeness which can only be a good thing. Top and bottom of it is if you get a visit its really already in the bag. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon123 Posted June 25, 2011 Report Share Posted June 25, 2011 Coat cupboard is ideal, most FEO's don't like attics or garages! Well, they like out garage :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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