madmanx Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 I have just managed to get a basic R C B S reloading kit.How important is it to have a case trimmer and are ultrasonic cleaners better than a tumbler for cleaning the cases.Cheers Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devilishdave Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 Case trimer is important but case cleaner is mostly cosmetic. Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
topade Posted April 13, 2006 Report Share Posted April 13, 2006 I have found the new ultra sonic case cleaners are fantastic and we all know thata clean case is important for uniform reloading Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Case trimer is important but case cleaner is mostly cosmetic. Dave Completely agree Dave. However, I cannot resist whizzing the case in an electric drill and clean it up with steel wool. Must be the male equivalent of doing the washing up and dusting and things I suppose. Nice to see a line of sparkling cases ready to reload. Sad really......... Don Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mry716 Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 Sorry but a case trimmer is essential or at least some other method to trim cases to size like a trim die. You MUST ensure the case is trimmed to correct size otherwise the neck could be too long and in the worst possible scenario crimp into the bullet as you cam the bolt handle down on a chambered round. You could easily blow the chamber with subsequent loss of part of face and eyesight etc. It could be critical so ALWAYS trim to correct size. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest john5 Posted April 14, 2006 Report Share Posted April 14, 2006 i agree with most of the coments , a case trimer is a MUST if you are reloading "fast" rounds, you should always clean your cases as a matter of "course", check case legnth with a micrometre or vernier gauge, dont get complacent and think that "i have measured the cases twice and get the same reading , so it dont matter" attitude, cause they will expand , plenty of good guys on here to ask ,.......... keep safe , shoot well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subsonic Flyer Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Hi Don’t underestimate the dangers associated with reloading. Ask any gunsmith about some of the horror’s they have seen caused by short cuts and careless practices. I recently saw a rifle that had the action peeled back like a banana, the stock split all the way to the butt and the barrel was completely missing. The cause was the reloader had failed to charge a case with powder. The primer ignition was enough to lodge the bullet in the barrel the following shot caused the rifle to blow apart. The barrel was never found. Fortunately the owner only suffered minor damage to the hands and face. Cases expand with every shot and when you resize the brass flows forward increasing the length. mry716 is right if you do not trim you will increase pressure due to crimping which effects consistency and most importantly puts you and others around you at risk. To be on the safe side you should check case length and trim every time you reuse the case. Case cleaning is not only cosmetic; it removes grit and soil that could scratch your dies. It removes resizing wax, cleans the inside of the case and enables you to spot stress marks in the cases much earlier therefore avoiding potential dangers. Tumblers are relatively cheap, easy to use and produce excellent results. Avoid using ammonia based products like Brasso as the ammonia weakens the brass and can result in premature failure of the case. SF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 madmanx I am also about to start to learn about re loading myself and have just got hold of a MEC for my 10 bore. John5 has already helped (thanks) the guy knows his onions, Perhaps you guys could point me and MM in the direction of a good guide sort of step by step to give an appreciation of the basics. I have a bud who re loads and is going to give me some help but the more I can find out prior the better (he is a gunsmith so has no books to lend me) cheers pavman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning Posted April 19, 2006 Report Share Posted April 19, 2006 Pavman/MM, I have a basic reloading doc that was usefull when I started. PM me with your email address and I'll let you have a copy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 A big Thanks to Browning and Henry for the info sent, its a big help guys, pavman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashleybrook Posted April 26, 2006 Report Share Posted April 26, 2006 I agree case length is sooo important with regards to reloading safely and accurately. I used the RCBS case trimmer pro the the three way cutter, it's awesome. It trims to exact length once set and inside chamfers and externally deburrs the case neck, I could never even think of case trimming with any other equipment after using this. Withe regards to case cleaning, again essential, and will affect accuracy and also clogg up your dyes if you don't clean. I use a Frankford Arsenal tumbler from reloading solutions and use the RCBS formula 1 cleaning media with RCBS powder case polish. My rounds without being big headed are the shiniest rounds I have seen to date (I do use Lapua match brass), but this is one of the cheaper tumblers and the media is not that expensive and it's woked faultlessly for two years now!!! you should check one out. Ashley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T3_TIKKA Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 madmanx I am also about to start to learn about re loading myself and have just got hold of a MEC for my 10 bore. John5 has already helped (thanks) the guy knows his onions, Perhaps you guys could point me and MM in the direction of a good guide sort of step by step to give an appreciation of the basics. I have a bud who re loads and is going to give me some help but the more I can find out prior the better (he is a gunsmith so has no books to lend me) cheers pavman I have found a young guy from youtube that explains very detailed. http://www.youtube.com/user/AccurateWayz#p/u/5/Wn7S3lHHdfo http://www.youtube.com/user/AccurateWayz#p/u/4/v9wEMTUT5Eo http://www.youtube.com/user/AccurateWayz#p/u/3/8Esc1rvLQWc http://www.youtube.com/user/AccurateWayz#p/u/2/_P3HDrwBM-M http://www.youtube.com/user/AccurateWayz#p/u/1/WgQb_Ng6lHs http://www.youtube.com/user/AccurateWayz#p/u/0/B6NQw090pi4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 I wouldn't bother cleaning myself. Well I don't.... Trimming I usually start after one reload. I'll happily load a factory case again and fire it as not much changes but if you're going to use your brass again and again then you must trim it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markbivvy Posted May 4, 2011 Report Share Posted May 4, 2011 Posted 13 April 2006 :blink: :blink: :blink: :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 I wouldn't bother cleaning myself. Well I don't.... Trimming I usually start after one reload. I'll happily load a factory case again and fire it as not much changes but if you're going to use your brass again and again then you must trim it. You wanna watch that one, its not unknown for an odd case to be longer than the others in factory brass. You will get better accuraccy trimming all so they are even, otherwise neck tention is bound to differ. Ok it might mean having two trim lengths 1st shorter than second and after, but it is safer and better. At least check the length of each case befor reloading it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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