tigger Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 So what? If it was a gamekeeper who shot them then he's just given the anti's even more ammunition to push for a ban on game shooting. Not the brightest thing to do is it? Of course not i dont agree with it anyway shape or form but im just guessing who would have such a motive to shoot said birds and why and thats how i answered the question beretta italy asked, its a sad day indeed when this sort of thing happens the same as poisoning raptors they should feel the full force of the law if caught Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 Of course not i dont agree with it anyway shape or form but im just guessing who would have such a motive to shoot said birds and why and thats how i answered the question beretta italy asked, its a sad day indeed when this sort of thing happens the same as poisoning raptors they should feel the full force of the law if caught I totally agree that whoever did it should have the book thrown at them. Plenty of pigeon 'fanciers' would be glad to see the back of them too though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 I totally agree that whoever did it should have the book thrown at them. Plenty of pigeon 'fanciers' would be glad to see the back of them too though. Thats one lot i never even thought of a strong posibility also i would say Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) Pigeon fanciers or racers? No - gamekeepers. Happens all the time in Derbyshire and Yorkshire with Goshawks. They've caught a couple of the *****. I've never read such a piece of gormless uneducated tripe as that drivel on this thread about Canada geese. God help us, if that's the brainpower that the field sports fraternity have got to offer. Goshawks are an endemic species in the UK, persecuted to extinction by gamekeepers, now making a bit of a comeback partly through escaped falconers birds. Canada geese are an introduced thing that shouldn't be anywhere neare the UK. If you can't see the difference, I feel sorry for you! Edited September 19, 2011 by Chard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 How come I don't think it makes sense to blast Goshawk chicks out of their nest? Pretty obvious really isn't it? but it makes 100% sence to do the same to crows that do the same thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Star Posted September 19, 2011 Report Share Posted September 19, 2011 (edited) No - gamekeepers. Happens all the time in Derbyshire and Yorkshire with Goshawks. They've caught a couple of the *****. I've never read such a piece of gormless uneducated tripe as that drivel on this thread about Canada geese. God help us, if that's the brainpower that the field sports fraternity have got to offer. Goshawks are an endemic species in the UK, persecuted to extinction by gamekeepers, now making a bit of a comeback partly through escaped falconers birds. Canada geese are an introduced thing that shouldn't be anywhere neare the UK. If you can't see the difference, I feel sorry for you! Do you know this afternoon I mentioned this post to a friend of mine in the Cotswold group of the BFC & the first thing he said was I bet it was in Derbyshire !. He told me on the Chatsworth estate they are tolerated but beyond that they are not & it is well known that they are being bumbed off . If the BFC know it I would imagine so to dose the wild life department in the Derbyshire Police , might be a good idea for some if they just tone down their attiude . Being tarred for the actions of a few who think they know better & its the world according to them !is not some thing that makes me happy ! . Edited September 19, 2011 by Pole Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 but it makes 100% sence to do the same to crows that do the same thing It's not illegal to shoot crows, and shooting them won't bring a negative impact on the shooting community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ack-ack Posted September 20, 2011 Report Share Posted September 20, 2011 It's not illegal to shoot crows, and shooting them won't bring a negative impact on the shooting community. It will if you shoot them in the High street Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 It's not illegal to shoot crows, and shooting them won't bring a negative impact on the shooting community. no true but they kill song birds (often the first line in our defence to shoot them)....so do gos they kill game...so do gos ok they dont damage crops, on rule for one critter one for anuther Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spara Dritto Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Tigger, Ignore Poontang. He's an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambhat Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 no true but they kill song birds (often the first line in our defence to shoot them)....so do gos they kill game...so do gos ok they dont damage crops, on rule for one critter one for anuther True but 1. The fact is that shooting goshawks is illegal, whereas shooting crows (in some circumstances - like not in the High Street) is not. Is that not a good enough distinction by itself? 2. The reason there is no blanket ban on shooting crows is that as well as them doing damage there are lots of them. One reason it's different for goshawks is that - however it might feel when they're taking your game - there aren't lots of them. So the law isn't going to chage any time soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted September 21, 2011 Report Share Posted September 21, 2011 Tigger, Ignore Poontang. He's an idiot. I think you'll find Tigger agrees with what I said. Now run along, there's a good boy. no true but they kill song birds (often the first line in our defence to shoot them)....so do gos they kill game...so do gos ok they dont damage crops, on rule for one critter one for anuther Well ok then, simple question for you. Do you, or would you, shoot a Goshawk? Yes or No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Star Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Been away for a while so have only just come back to this . So who would shoot a Goshawk ? come on the own up some of us would love too hear !. Recently in the Shooting Times we hear of a number of Goshawks poisoned in Devon ! all this dose the shooting world no favours what so ever ! . Pole Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 (edited) Been away for a while so have only just come back to this . So who would shoot a Goshawk ? come on the own up some of us would love too hear !. Recently in the Shooting Times we hear of a number of Goshawks poisoned in Devon ! all this dose the shooting world no favours what so ever ! . Pole Star There are plenty on here that would Obvious problem is that the remoteness of these locations means that getting caught is fairly unlikely, but people do witness it occasionally and there are people watching, especially in the nesting season. This includes me and I would grass someone up without giving it a second thought. Most of them are too ******* stupid to understand or care about the damage inflicted on the reputation of shooting sports. You can't legislate against rank stupidity (unfortunately). Edited October 9, 2011 by Chard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazza Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Plenty on here that couldn't tell the difference between a Goshawk and a pigeon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chard Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Plenty on here that couldn't tell the difference between a Goshawk and a pigeon That's very true. I can say for certain that there's just about nobody on here that can ID a Goshawk for certain, if they're confronted with a big female Sparrowhawk against a small male Goshawk. I still struggle sometimes and I've seen hundreds of them. That's why they must never allow "culling" of Sparrowhawks. The mongtards would be out in force and there wouldn't be a Goshawk left in the country within 48 hours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pole Star Posted October 9, 2011 Report Share Posted October 9, 2011 Those of us who have owened & flown Goshawks can identify them & if some one is lucky enough to find their plucking post will then get a perfect insight to what they are feeding on . In the case of Sparrow Hawks wich are much more common its a real eye opener , most of what they take is small birds & a hell of a lot of pigeons , wich are only taken by the Spar ( female ) be cauase the musket ( male) is in no way big enough too take them . So from a farmers point of view they can do a little good . Not that some want too believe it ! . Every time we here on the news or read in the press of hawks being bumbed off it just plays right into the hands of the back bench idiot jumped up politican trying to make a name for them selves & there are loads of them !. They are the ones who will legislate against us & ENJOY it! , dont give em what they want . Pole Star Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highseas Posted October 11, 2011 Report Share Posted October 11, 2011 I think you'll find Tigger agrees with what I said. Now run along, there's a good boy. Well ok then, simple question for you. Do you, or would you, shoot a Goshawk? Yes or No. hmm berretaitaly........ erm noo sir thats agains the law Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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