mushashi_miyamoto Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 I am looking for a sidebyside for rough/walked up shooting. I'd like boxlock 12g fixed 1/2,3/4 chokes and oiled pow/half pistol grip would be perfect but I don't want to spend load on it or have a heavy gun. aya 4/53 seems good but expensive new would have to trade silver pigeon to consider it. I was thinking Ugartechea http://www.guntrader.co.uk/GunsForSale/051122173503001 anyone had one? tried one? (the wood on this one looks like it wants to split with that two tone line running down it) I know someone will say good deals second hand but older guns mean shorter stock and which is a problem. Baikal are good but heavy and new ones are all multichoke and full pistol which i don't want on sbs. So have I left any stone unturned? Is there some small gunmaker out the that I have overlooked or is SBS just a thing of the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 I have an Aya Yoeman that never gets used, yours for £90... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 (edited) Miroku not sure if they still do them? Depends on budget lots out there plenty with decent length stocks I have a BSA/SKB 200E that was my grandfathers has all you want mine is pistol gripped but seen PoW stocks on them yildiz, Lincoln, fausti, gamba I think offer SxS at reasonable money I am sure you could have a stock altered or one made for you at right length http://www.guntrader.co.uk/GunsForSale/111027081446858 (wow a pair) http://www.guntrader.co.uk/GunsForSale/111004123405001 (same as mine) http://www.guntrader.co.uk/GunsForSale/101119162654000 http://www.guntrader.co.uk/GunsForSale/111114151424001 (plain and short stock) SOmething a bit different) Edited November 22, 2011 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triumphant59 Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Look for a Laurona or Sabel boxlock ejector, quality wise just as good as aya No4 and half the price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushashi_miyamoto Posted November 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Miroku not sure if they still do them? Depends on budget lots out there plenty with decent length stocks I have a BSA/SKB 200E that was my grandfathers has all you want mine is pistol gripped but seen PoW stocks on them yildiz, Lincoln, fausti, gamba I think offer SxS at reasonable money I am sure you could have a stock altered or one made for you at right length Yeah stock altering only works a little bit if you add it on the butt. Extend to much and geometry all messed up. Better longer and shallower angle from the start. Miroku stopped doing one. There used to me a model 500 but browning weight made it unpopular I think. yildiz has the plastic painted over wood grain which is nasty looking. Lincoln don't make em, Fausti and Gamba ..didn't know about them can't see any uk stockist though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 You could get an old AYA No3 ( non-ejector ) for around £100. If you fancy something that feels expensive, and looks nice too, then how about a Black Sable Deluxe ? It's a sidelock, so light and thin, but cheap at sub £500 used private. I think they're made by a famous maker for Gunmark. No markings on mine to give a clue though. http://www.gunseller.co.uk/buy/shotgun/sable-black-sable-deluxe_ZjNhZjQ1MjI5/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 (edited) Fausti and gamba do them contact them for UK importer details, Yildiz is Wood (at least in the better ones) West country guns did Gamba not sure if they still do? SPortsman do fausti gets a good write up here http://www.thefield.co.uk/gunreviews/447112/Fausti_style_sidebyside_gun_review.html What sort of budget? for £3k there is the william powell Marquis which has a 15"1/8 LOP made by Arrieta in spain Stock altering is one thing but having a stock made is different as it can be balanced just as a new gun is. SxS are not popular so eithe rgrab a S/H bargain or struggle looking for a new gun in limited market.... Edited November 22, 2011 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushashi_miyamoto Posted November 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 You could get an old AYA No3 ( non-ejector ) for around £100. If you fancy something that feels expensive, and looks nice too, then how about a Black Sable Deluxe ? It's a sidelock, so light and thin, but cheap at sub £500 used private. I think they're made by a famous maker for Gunmark. No markings on mine to give a clue though. http://www.gunseller.co.uk/buy/shotgun/sable-black-sable-deluxe_ZjNhZjQ1MjI5/ Yeah famous maker from their didn't make the grade parts bin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushashi_miyamoto Posted November 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Fausti and gamba do them contact them for UK importer details, Yildiz is Wood (at least in the better ones) West country guns did Gamba not sure if they still do? SPortsman do fausti gets a good write up here http://www.thefield.co.uk/gunreviews/447112/Fausti_style_sidebyside_gun_review.html What sort of budget? for £3k there is the william powell Marquis which has a 15"1/8 LOP made by Arrieta in spain Stock altering is one thing but having a stock made is different as it can be balanced just as a new gun is. SxS are not popular so eithe rgrab a S/H bargain or struggle looking for a new gun in limited market.... £1500 or so. Nuts that Fausti is not on sportsman anymore just the o/u ones called windsors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Sportsman website is **** phone the Exeter store or Dorset and ask I bet they can get them and probably have a couple but didn't bother putting them online Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushashi_miyamoto Posted November 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Thanks for all the new options. I'm emailed sportsmanguncenter to see if they getting more in but they are discounting the remaining fausti's quite heavily so i doubt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 I would phone, as they are the importer I would think the SRP is nonsense and designed to make them look better value £1500 may get you into silver hawk territory used. Are you after single or double triggers? Multi choke? Steel proof? Where are you? ( can't see from my phone) SxS are far less popular than O/U and as such many importers may well not list guns they can get and may well have some stock that isn't published/promoted the William Powell Marquis looks perfect but is nearer £3k worth am email to see if they have a used one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_evil Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 £1500 ? http://www.guntrader.co.uk/3rdParty/Malmoguns/Detail.php?NewGunID=111013121207000 http://www.guntrader.co.uk/3rdParty/Malmoguns/Detail.php?NewGunID=110810101017001 or http://www.guntrader.co.uk/3rdParty/Malmoguns/Detail.php?NewGunID=110823161636008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 That beretta looks good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Yeah famous maker from their didn't make the grade parts bin Possibly made by Garbi. Either way, a nice sidelock double for very little money compared to similar guns with names on. http://www.armasgarbi.com/english/armas.html How much are you looking to spend ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Fausti in stock http://www.GunStar.co.uk/Shotgun/Fausti-Stefano-gun-for-sale-gs42868.aspx well listed at least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_evil Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 That beretta looks good! Both shown are Beretta The last links for some smaller gunsmith, theres a pic of the wood for the top Beretta on the link I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushashi_miyamoto Posted November 22, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 £1500 ? http://www.guntrader.co.uk/3rdParty/Malmoguns/Detail.php?NewGunID=111013121207000 http://www.guntrader.co.uk/3rdParty/Malmoguns/Detail.php?NewGunID=110810101017001 or http://www.guntrader.co.uk/3rdParty/Malmoguns/Detail.php?NewGunID=110823161636008 Don't really want another beretta but £1500 for new gun at the topmost. £1500 for second hand I could not risk it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_evil Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Malmos give a warranty with their guns, I buy all mine from there and have never had a problem Same with ammo, they have plenty more that arent up on the site though Some lovely ones in store today and excellent makers, holland and holland too if you wish as well as various other high enders, Hollands were fairly cheap I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 22, 2011 Report Share Posted November 22, 2011 Not really any risk buying a reputable gun from a reputable dealer, found a fausti for you for £800 double trigger tho? £1300 on the berretta with lovely wood (assuming it all fits etc) would be my choice I think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Catweazle Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Not really any risk buying a reputable gun from a reputable dealer, found a fausti for you for £800 double trigger tho? £1300 on the berretta with lovely wood (assuming it all fits etc) would be my choice I think Closer to £10,000 for that Beretta Jubilee I think. http://www.claypal.co.uk/new-beretta-jubilee-2-12-bore-side-by-side-shotgun-for-sale-(200024).htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 I would go the 2nd hand route,nice English/scottish boxlock for £1500 could get a tidy gun,I doubt over time you would lose any money on it.If your main reason against them is 'all have short stocks' are you a gorilla? Typical 14.5-15 stocks are the norm,what size do you need? I think the Ugartachea is a good looking gun,however if you buy new I do think you will lose 30% by taking it out of the shop...If you prefer foreign,AYA No 2? bit smart for rough shooting but within your budget 2nd hand? ATB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 merkel, good guns but very traditional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted November 23, 2011 Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 Closer to £10,000 for that Beretta Jubilee I think. http://www.claypal.co.uk/new-beretta-jubilee-2-12-bore-side-by-side-shotgun-for-sale-(200024).htm Oh well, lovely gun tho.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushashi_miyamoto Posted November 23, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 23, 2011 like the sound of these merkels http://www.cheshiregunroom.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=6245&zenid=9tlcv6kj1i5h6lh05vnjtq5863 anyone seen/tried/costed one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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