joshnathan Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Hello All, After much waiting i finally got my license through and i've be pondering what gun i really want to get. After much deliberation i've decided against getting a o/u and instead going for the benelli Vinci a gun i love shooting and one that i have loved when i've used it on clay shoots. However, i will be going on a fair few rough shoots both driven and walking and i wanted to get a side by side, not only because i love the feel and look but because i feel i can get a better gun for my money then i could from an o/u. My first question is do you think this is a good idea or should i go for a o/u? Secondly, what is the best s/h side by side i could get for around 500? I've seen a fair few army and navy s/s that i like however, i would love for you lot to chime in and share some wisdom. Regards, Joshua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 AYA no.4 or AYA 25 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 This is purely my view, if you want to learn to shoot quickly, and become a proficient shot in a short while go for an over and under, then again if you are prepared to go with the ups and down and lessons from a teacher who uses a side by side you will if you stick with it become a good shot if you have the mentality to cope with a side by side. It is essential that the s/s you buy is fitted for you..you need to be at a stage in shooting where you know what feels right in your shoulder, fitting is not expensive, it involves casting the stock, lenghtening or shortening, and drilling out the butt and balancing (adding or takeing away weight), Do not be temtped to add a rubber butt plate, have the but finished off in the plain wood. For more years than i can remember i have owned and used an AYA no 2 26" 1/4 and cyl choke, match the cartridge to the gun, there is something about using a s/s that i cant put down into words, for me its the difference between using a kitchen knife and surgical tool, learing to use a s/s can be a depressing game, that is why many people give up shooting anyway as i said this is my view, ditchman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 (edited) GO try a few and shoot some clays I know a few people who are good shots and cant hit a barn door with a SxS. Also decide what you want Single double trigger etc older gun or newer? 12/16/20 bore? do you need MC or steel proof? or happy to use it with lighter loads on game and not bother about steel big loads etc. I inherited my Grandfatehrs SxS its a BSA/SKB 200E you can get them for £500 ish Japanese made, single none selective trigger ejector. Simple easy to use and good fun to shoot. One here http://www.guntrader.co.uk/GunsForSale/111004123405001 there are lots of more interesting guns about including some english no names, and AYA #3/#4 and other continentals http://www.guntrader.co.uk/GunsForSale/111128143444001 But i wouldn't suggest buying something like this unless you know what to look for or know someone who does! Not without shooting it first... Do not be temtped to add a rubber butt plate, have the but finished off in the plain wood. Can I ask Why? Edited December 6, 2011 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshnathan Posted December 6, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 Hello, Thanks for the advice, i've been shooting for close to seven years and i've been using a o/u for that time. However, i'm willing to embrace the s by s and i'm happy to take lessons and get into the swing of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 GO try a few and shoot some clays I know a few people who are good shots and cant hit a barn door with a SxS. Also decide what you want Single double trigger etc older gun or newer? 12/16/20 bore? do you need MC or steel proof? or happy to use it with lighter loads on game and not bother about steel big loads etc. I inherited my Grandfatehrs SxS its a BSA/SKB 200E you can get them for £500 ish Japanese made, single none selective trigger ejector. Simple easy to use and good fun to shoot. One here http://www.guntrader.co.uk/GunsForSale/111004123405001 there are lots of more interesting guns about including some english no names, and AYA #3/#4 and other continentals http://www.guntrader.co.uk/GunsForSale/111128143444001 But i wouldn't suggest buying something like this unless you know what to look for or know someone who does! Not without shooting it first... Can I ask Why? it is important that the butt slips into your shoulder in the same place everytime, most rubber or neoprene butt plates tend to drag on your clothes as you bring the butt up, and this differs with the clothing you wear thus resulting in the butt not going into the same place everytime, you will never seen a quality s/s new with a butt plate fitted, i use my mates o/u sometimes and it really annoys me how it catches my jacket as it comes up, when he uses it he pushes the gun out and then back into his shoulder...the different styles of shooting i guess !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 What a load of claptrap! Excluded is your wish and sam f's (who answered your question) advice. Your A and N and sam's AYA (me, I'd go for the 25 boxlock - only because I have one) will do you nicely. Just go and find one you like and buy it - don't be put off by non ejectors, in fact see if you can find one, it'll be cheper and who needs them most, if not all, of the time anyway. Enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 6, 2011 Report Share Posted December 6, 2011 (edited) it is important that the butt slips into your shoulder in the same place everytime, most rubber or neoprene butt plates tend to drag on your clothes as you bring the butt up, and this differs with the clothing you wear thus resulting in the butt not going into the same place everytime, you will never seen a quality s/s new with a butt plate fitted, i use my mates o/u sometimes and it really annoys me how it catches my jacket as it comes up, when he uses it he pushes the gun out and then back into his shoulder...the different styles of shooting i guess !! Then that's a comment about your dislike for rubber (or the rubber on your friends OU. There are plenty of none sticky butt plate options. What a load of claptrap! Excluded is your wish and sam f's (who answered your question) advice. Your A and N and sam's AYA (me, I'd go for the 25 boxlock - only because I have one) will do you nicely. Edited December 6, 2011 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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