WelshTom Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Hi guys, Not sure if this is the correct section to post this - sorry if it isnt. Right i mainly shoot air rifles but really want to start clay pigeon shooting and eventually game ( alot of rabbit on my permission that need sorting out so a silenced .410 could be an fun/effective option with a lamp) Basically i was wondering what guns you would recommend for a beginner? I havent sent the application off yet but i will be in early January ( going to get my cabinet sorted first). Just want an idea so i can start to look about and get a budget sorted. Im also arranging to have some clay pigeon shooting lessons to get me started for my birthday ( just to get the basics correct) - is this the best way to go about it? A person from another forum told me that wanting to get into clay pigeon shooting isnt a valid reason for owning a shotgun? this sounds like a load of cobblers to me!! am i correct in thinking that you do not need to have a valid reason to own an SGC? even so clay pigeon shooting is surely a valid reason?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 From owning a moderated .410 I can tell you they are a pig to shoot with at first, no rib and a very different sight picture. However once I got used to mine it became (and remains) an exceptionally effective tool for shooting close to houses and livestock safely. Have a few lessons, use both 12 bore and 20 bore to see which you prefer. Ask the instructors for advice regarding what to buy. Wait a while until you pick up a moderated shotgun, it could put you off shotguns for life with the cartridge/kill rate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Fear not clay pigeon shooting is a perfectly valid reason for having a shotgun. Shooting lessons are a great idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshTom Posted December 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 awsome, thanks for the replies guys. in that case i will definately be applying soon, just going to get a cabinet sorted first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Could well be worth you putting your application in asap as depending on the area it can be up to 3 months or longer in getting your SGC, although in some areas its only weeks to process them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bode.boden Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 they are right in saying get application in as soon as poss in our area takes months to get sorted since licenceing was up dated (all computerised ) and moved to malvern seems to be a lot slower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshTom Posted December 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 hmmm that sucks, im in south wales so dont know how long the average time is here. i know that a collegue sent his FAC off 5 weeks ago and still hasnt heard anything yet. thanks for the heads up, will get it filled out asap Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning 425 clay hunter Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 I would get your cabinate now. You might put your sgc app in and get a call the same week for a visit. Get your application in ASAP, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshTom Posted December 27, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 what size cabinet would you recommend? no gun shops in my area stock them so will have to order online. Im thinking that a 5/6 deep rifle safe with lock top box ( will be keeping 2 scoped air rifles in the cabinet as well), secured out of sight on a load bearing wall will be sufficient? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewj Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 as they say the bigger the better if you have the space Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apache Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 what size cabinet would you recommend? no gun shops in my area stock them so will have to order online. Im thinking that a 5/6 deep rifle safe with lock top box ( will be keeping 2 scoped air rifles in the cabinet as well), secured out of sight on a load bearing wall will be sufficient? Buy the biggest you can fit in/afford. This gets addictive. I started with a 3 gun cabinet. After 6 months upgraded to a 6 gun. After 6 more months added a 5 gun second cabinet. 6 months later had the 5 gun made bigger to hold 8 guns, so now have a capacity of 14 and about full. Looking to add a 3rd cabinet. Now on my 3rd ammo safe too. A bigger size is often not that much more money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Sportsman in Newport and Phil ash in kenfig hill stock cabinets I collected mine from Newport they ordered it in and was cheaper than anywhere online for 5 gun bratton sound, send application ASAP and get some lessons lined up I went to treetops Andrew is a decent coach to start you off. You will be lucky get cert in under 2-3 months all in I recon so don't dawdle! Learn on the clays first and be very aware of whatever people on forums tell you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brin Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 From owning a moderated .410 I can tell you they are a pig to shoot with at first, no rib and a very different sight picture. However once I got used to mine it became (and remains) an exceptionally effective tool for shooting close to houses and livestock safely. Have a few lessons, use both 12 bore and 20 bore to see which you prefer. Ask the instructors for advice regarding what to buy. Wait a while until you pick up a moderated shotgun, it could put you off shotguns for life with the cartridge/kill rate! you full of **** Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
libs Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 you full of **** Whys that then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90bhp Posted December 27, 2011 Report Share Posted December 27, 2011 Get the cabinet by all means, but if you have any questions about fitting,,,,call you fao to clarify before you start. Mine is wall and floor mounted, completely flush with wall with skirting removed etc. Out of site, load bearing wall etc Any doubt read lots, make a call - fit it once. Mine would be pita to move ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Browning 425 clay hunter Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 Your cabinate should be ideally fitted to an exterior wall, in a left hand corner so it's hard to get a crow bar at it. I got mine from mole valley farm. Seemed to be cheapest I could find but sure others will recommend different. If u can put it in your bedroom great, I put mine in my wardrobe. Just cut out the back and base to fit cabinate and slide wardrobe back over. FEO was pleased as it's a low traffic area of the house and completely out of sight. Also make sure it's a police approved one but I'm sure you knew that anyway. My FEO said round here now they are making sure people have had a few lessons first before they grant the cert. The interview isn't half as bad as you think, I was expecting to be interrogated but it's a really formal chat, usually with a top bloke. Just make sure you tell them everything as they will have it all on record anyway. Best of luck. Ps. A good Brew and nice biccy's always go down well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BerettaSV10 Posted December 28, 2011 Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 As othershave stated get a bigger cabinate than you think you will need, it does get addictive. A good one to get as a starter cabinate is the brattansound RL5+ takes 5 guns, is deep enough to take scoped guns if you want to take up air or rifle shooting. Its also deep enough to hold shot guns and cartridges, also has a internal top locable compartment. Speak to your feo about their prefered location, some have a preferance whare they would like them fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WelshTom Posted December 28, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 28, 2011 thanks for the advice guys. a deep cabinet is a must because it needs to be able to take my air rifles too ( hate for them to get damaged). Not in too much of a rush with regards to the cert to be honest. It will take as long as it takes - will have my air rifles to use while im waiting anyway. going to go cabinet shopping this weekend hopefully. anyone from the carmarthenshire area? recommend any good places to get lessons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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