JMW Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 Hey, I bought a SS 16 bore shotgun by H G Cordes. Anyone know anything about the company? Stock was broken when I bought it from the auction at the good price of £5. I fixed the stock and went clay shooting with it. Got on really well with it and the the stock broke again. Does anyone know where I can get a replacement? Or will this cost too much? I have tried to find a similar gun on the net with a broken action that I can steal the stock off but no luck there. The other option is if I cut off the first 6 inches of the stock and make a new piece myself and stick it on but that will probably look pants. Regards Jon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackpowder Posted January 5, 2012 Report Share Posted January 5, 2012 I 've had a quick look through both the London and Scottish/ Birmingham editions of,"British Gunmakers" and have not found an H.G.Cordes. However the name on a shotgun does not mean it is that of the maker, I have seen guns with local named firms who never ever made a shotgun. Some of these guns were excellent examples of good quality Birmingham boxlocks to robust farmers and gamekeepers guns. I have also seen a dreadful import, albeit ancient ,were everything rattled and shook but the farmer owner was quite happy to fire an occasional volley to keep vermin from his crops. It is unlikely that you shall be able to get a stock off the shelf to fit, as if it is a gun involving a lot of hand fitting every stock to action fit would be a one off, although you could be lucky enough to pick up a second hand stock from a scrap gun which could be fitted to suit. Good luck Blackpowder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMW Posted January 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Thanks Blackpowder, it was proofed in Liège Proof House, Belgium. Stamped on the barrels is Bremerhaven so wouldn't be in your book. I've found out that H Cordes company were involved In producing whaling guns and line throwing guns, the only other thing i can find out is that they were a premier artillery maker of Germania, H.G. Cordes of Wesermünde. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notsosureshot Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 Some years ago I was asked to research a SxS which was of European origin, I initially thought German. I asked on a specialist web site for information on the maker "Schneider****z" which, it turned out was an Austrian. I was told that a lot of guns manufactured prior to WW2 are untraceable since so many records were lost during WW2 itself. This is the case with many smaller makers, some of whom were very high quality. Since yours is Belgian, that may be the case here too. Could well be 1930's and information for the maker might have been lost due to the occupation etc etc. I never did find out much more about the maker sadly. The gun is still in the family and one day I may import it. Its a very nice gun actually, out of proof I'm sure, but a curiosity. Total speculation with regards to your gun, but your information about artillery and whaling guns suggested pre-war roots. Sorry I cannot be of more help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted January 6, 2012 Report Share Posted January 6, 2012 post up some pics of the break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMW Posted January 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Hey Maybe I wont ever know, there are some proof stamps I would like to find out about, they are an X and a P with a star above, I believe they refer to the proof inspector at the time and give you a window of production. Ive attached the first three pics, stock is completely shot, I have repaied it but that didnt work, just not enough wood to keep it together, I did get about 50 cartridges through it at the clay club and got on quite well with it so need to sort something. Thanks again notsosureshot and blackpowder Jon some more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreddytheFox Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Hello Jon......looking at the photo's of your stock shows, "YES" a bad break, new stock job really, but all is not lost.....the way you show youv'e clamped it to fix ain't the way od'e son !!!......Get the stock away from the action, get all the glue, that you have used off the split surfaces....Every Bit!!!......fit the two pieces back together untill they are as good as you can achive......Deagrease with Carbon-Tetra-Cloride, or equivilent.....Drill into broken faces small diameter holes about 2/3mm deep approx opposite each other on both sides, to form dowels in the wood.....10/15 will do !!!....when you are completly satisfied with your efforts, use a white Powder Joiners Glue, that has to be mixed with Water to a creamy paste....It used to be known as "CASKAMITE", But the name has changed, but just ask about you'll find it under its new name ?......Mix up paste very thinly, press the parts together, remove all surplus glue and bind together using Electrical Tape.....put the pressure on use plenty of tape, don't spare the rod !!!....(colour don't matter) !!!.......Leave 3/4 days in situ.....Remove Tape....Clean and tidy up to suit your taste.....FIT back to action, jobs a gudun.... REMEMBER CLEAN FACES TO BE GLUED "THOROUGHLY", THEN JOINT WILL BE JUST AS GOOD AS WHEN IT WERE NEW......Hope this is of help to you.....gerron and Fix that stock.......FreddytheFox......PS:- sorry about the spelling !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMW Posted January 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Hello Jon......looking at the photo's of your stock shows, "YES" a bad break, new stock job really, but all is not lost.....the way you show youv'e clamped it to fix ain't the way od'e son !!!......Get the stock away from the action, get all the glue, that you have used off the split surfaces....Every Bit!!!......fit the two pieces back together untill they are as good as you can achive......Deagrease with Carbon-Tetra-Cloride, or equivilent.....Drill into broken faces small diameter holes about 2/3mm deep approx opposite each other on both sides, to form dowels in the wood.....10/15 will do !!!....when you are completly satisfied with your efforts, use a white Powder Joiners Glue, that has to be mixed with Water to a creamy paste....It used to be known as "CASKAMITE", But the name has changed, but just ask about you'll find it under its new name ?......Mix up paste very thinly, press the parts together, remove all surplus glue and bind together using Electrical Tape.....put the pressure on use plenty of tape, don't spare the rod !!!....(colour don't matter) !!!.......Leave 3/4 days in situ.....Remove Tape....Clean and tidy up to suit your taste.....FIT back to action, jobs a gudun.... REMEMBER CLEAN FACES TO BE GLUED "THOROUGHLY", THEN JOINT WILL BE JUST AS GOOD AS WHEN IT WERE NEW......Hope this is of help to you.....gerron and Fix that stock.......FreddytheFox......PS:- sorry about the spelling !!! Freddy Thank you for your reply, I have ordered some Caskamite and will give it a go as per your instructions when I get back and will post my efforts. Regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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