Dekers Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) Thought it was about time I invested in a Semi Auto .22. Used a few over the tears but never owned one. I had no desire to spend a load of money on a 10-22 then throw most of it away, actually I had no desire to spend much money at all, so I bought a Magtech 7022 (same as the Mossberg 702). The trigger is not good (I'm being polite) but I'm told it improves with age, (or sandpaper and oils ) The rifle is usable straight out of the box with the open sights fitted, and this may be a useful feature for many on a .22 semi. The problem I face is my eyes, I can see the sights or the quarry but not both together with open sights, so a scope had to be fitted! The rifle comes pre threaded but no studs fitted, the package after I fitted studs. Open sights removed, the first scope was fine.... but the opportunity of a well priced 5-15x40 Bushnell Legend presented itself, so I thought I'd give it a try. New SAK and Sling also fitted. Ammo used so far is Magtech Subs, Federal Subs and American Eagle AE5022, it spits them all out fine so far but it is early days and I don't expect that will last. Accuracy wise it's perfectly acceptable so far, this isn't a precision target tool and I am hoping that when everything has eased in a bit, and I have found it's favourite ammo it will be fine. If it turns out to be a dog I'll let you know, and vice versa. Rifle, including 10 shot magazine, £150 Brand New, additional 10 shot Mag £18.00p. Edit Barrel 18" Finished weight, as in the last picture with a full magazine, is only just over 6lbs, 2.767kg. Edited January 7, 2012 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 (edited) Magtech 7022/Mossberg 702 Magtec-Mossberg.doc Spot the difference!? The difference is in the price tag! Edited January 7, 2012 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Will watch this one closely Dekers , do they do HMR ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blunderbuss Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Will watch this one closely Dekers , do they do HMR ? I know there are one or two semi auto HMRs, but ISTR there are problems with cases bulging as the HMR is a little too pokey for a straight blow back semi without a locked breech. I don't think our legislation would allow a semi auto .17 HMR? I think the wording is ".22 rimfire" not simply "rimfire" so they'd be section 5 I think? I think that's very good value if the trigger can be sorted. Dekers, what sort of groups are you getting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Will watch this one closely Dekers , do they do HMR ? Not that I am aware, not even .22WMR, just .22lr! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 I'll be watching this with interest as I was thinking of getting one as a cheap starter rifle. Where did you get it for £150 Dekers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 I know there are one or two semi auto HMRs, but ISTR there are problems with cases bulging as the HMR is a little too pokey for a straight blow back semi without a locked breech. I don't think our legislation would allow a semi auto .17 HMR? I think the wording is ".22 rimfire" not simply "rimfire" so they'd be section 5 I think? I think that's very good value if the trigger can be sorted. Dekers, what sort of groups are you getting? There is no replacement trigger, at best it can be worked on a little, but it has a long pull and it feels like two pieces of sandpaper grating on each other at the moment, but getting easier already! £150 Brand new, daft price really, thats way cheaper than any PCP air rifle, and many springers. Suffice to say groups are not as good as the CZ 452, but I didn't except it, this is for "close" range bunny bashing and results so far are more than adequate/encouraging. I need to do more ammo testing, run the barrel in and get the action eased a bit, and as I have already said the trigger is terrible, that alone will cause issues! Give me a chance to evaluate the thing properly over the next few weeks and I will be happy to post results! ATB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 I'll be watching this with interest as I was thinking of getting one as a cheap starter rifle. Where did you get it for £150 Dekers? You have PM, it was only £120 about 2-3 years back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 Top man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vole Posted January 7, 2012 Report Share Posted January 7, 2012 I know there are one or two semi auto HMRs, but ISTR there are problems with cases bulging as the HMR is a little too pokey for a straight blow back semi without a locked breech. I don't think our legislation would allow a semi auto .17 HMR? I think the wording is ".22 rimfire" not simply "rimfire" so they'd be section 5 I think? I think that's very good value if the trigger can be sorted. Dekers, what sort of groups are you getting? Sorry , meant in B/A . If I heard the accuracy was good and spares available I would be tempted by a Magtech or the like . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shotgun sam Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Dekers, Can you tell me where you got the rifle. Sam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted January 8, 2012 Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 the trigger on mine is fine but it was second hand but i know the chap who had it from new and he has had nothing don to it so it will ease up as time go's on. and its as accurate as my 1022 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) Put about 150 rounds through it today, Remington 38g HP subs, they are terrible, two hardly made it out of the barrel, went off with a phut rather than a bang, but they were cheap, very cheap, only got them to help loosen up the rifle, and I won't be getting any more. The Magtech 40g HP were fine, and it still hasn't jammed or mis-fed once, my time will come! I'm not keen on ramming a cleaning rod down the wrong end of the barrel, and the action is a real pain to clean, no different to any other semi though I guess! Edited January 8, 2012 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 Dekers, Can you tell me where you got the rifle. Sam You have PM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2012 (edited) the trigger on mine is fine but it was second hand but i know the chap who had it from new and he has had nothing don to it so it will ease up as time go's on. and its as accurate as my 1022 Mine is easing up already but it will never be a match trigger! There are those that will suggest it is a two stage trigger, about a fortnight of travel to start with then it stops, and you need a carthorse to pull it then. Edited January 8, 2012 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruitloop Posted January 9, 2012 Report Share Posted January 9, 2012 i know dekers but for the price . just think you can spend 2 times that on a 1022 and still spend Even moor on extras. if it dint loosen up you can always strip and polish the trigger group . if you could get the fancy replacement parts for it like with the 1022 it wold go up in price to buy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted March 11, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 11, 2012 Just a little more, it had its first outing a Bisley today. Caused a bit of a stir among the members and turned several of them into little boys again, several tried it! It is surprising how quickly you can empty a 10 shot mag from a .22lr on a Bipod, we had it under 2 seconds, most were 3-5 secs!! We were on Short Siberia 200 Yards today, if you were there you will know the weather was almost perfect, and not a wisp of a breeze. Eley Subs were fine but the AE 5022 excelled themselves, on the Bipod, 10 shots rapid fire, 200yards from the last member to use it grouped all around the Orange! The trigger may be improving, but its taking its time, the rifle has fired around 1200-1300 shots so far and still not a single jam, it will happen, I know that! The members were impressed with its weight, handling, performance, accuracy, price, looks, were not impressed with the trigger. I am not making excuses for the trigger, it isn't good, but you can get used to it, and this is only a close range bunny tool in truth, it's performance at 200 yards surprised me today. ..... and no, a .22lr is not a 200 yard field tool, this had numerous sighters to get it sweet and there was no wind and the temperature was perfect! ATB! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted March 12, 2012 Report Share Posted March 12, 2012 Sounds an absolute bargain. Cz do a semi auto in wmr think its the 511 or 512 i thought about one for a while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 23, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 23, 2018 (edited) Hi Everyone. Time has passed and an update is in order, to be honest I am surprised it was that long ago. This does not come out on a daily basis, just when it is required, I have plenty of rifles to select the best for any job. I am impressed and pleased, it works just fine, accuracy is more than acceptable, reliability is brilliant, the trigger has improved (but is still a fair way from great) and it cycles. No regrets at all in buying one and no plans to sell it either. ATB! PS. As well as the Mossberg 702 I have found this also shares a lot of its heritage with the Marlin 700 as well Edited January 23, 2018 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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