silverhawk Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Hi all,In april last year I had to replace barrel for my section 1 shotgun,When the dealer replaced the barrel he was advised by hes department to enter the barrel S/N on to my fac even though i didnt have a slot so theres a record of a barrel change on the gun.And the dealer kept the old barrel of my shotgun. I ended up with a letter and warning on my file for buying an additional barrel without a variation.And my barrel is listed as a spare when its a part of the gun.As well as threats of 5years prison from my feo . Ive sent a letter to the firearms manager explaining this is a miss understanding and no additional barrel was in my possession.And if he could reconsider this warning but this has been just brushed off and my certificate sent back. I have been in touch with organisations and the only way around this is to make a complaint against the feo.I have tried letting it just go but over the past months it just keeps winding me up when I think about it . Should I just let it go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Hi all,In april last year I had to replace barrel for my section 1 shotgun,When the dealer replaced the barrel he was advised by hes department to enter the barrel S/N on to my fac even though i didnt have a slot so theres a record of a barrel change on the gun.And the dealer kept the old barrel of my shotgun. I ended up with a letter and warning on my file for buying an additional barrel without a variation.And my barrel is listed as a spare when its a part of the gun.As well as threats of 5years prison from my feo . Ive sent a letter to the firearms manager explaining this is a miss understanding and no additional barrel was in my possession.And if he could reconsider this warning but this has been just brushed off and my certificate sent back. I have been in touch with organisations and the only way around this is to make a complaint against the feo.I have tried letting it just go but over the past months it just keeps winding me up when I think about it . Should I just let it go Sadly, whilst annoying and seemingly petty, you have broken the law and really, with things in licencing land as they are, you should count yourself lucky you haven't had your FAC revoked and ended up with a criminal record. You need a 1 for 1 variation for a replacement barrel just as you would if you had swapped the gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) DO you have an SGC? I was always under the impression that a Shotgun barrel for sect 2 anyway was not required to go on cert plenty of people have 2 barrel sets and spare barrels but aren't on cert What was so special about your barrel? It wasnt a new gun, just a repair that required a replacement compnent Edited January 14, 2012 by HDAV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 DO you have an SGC? I was always under the impression that a Shotgun barrel for sect 2 anyway was not required to go on cert plenty of people have 2 barrel sets and spare barrels but aren't on cert What was so special about your barrel? It wasnt a new gun, just a repair that required a replacement compnent It's a working part of a sec 1 firearm, therefore even though it is smoth bored etc.. etc... it will be treated as sec 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 SO do you need a 1 for 1 for a new barrel on rifle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vipa Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 SO do you need a 1 for 1 for a new barrel on rifle? That is my understanding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhawk Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 What I found odd was that I never had an additional barrel,And the dealer was advised to do it this way by he's firearms department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 What I found odd was that I never had an additional barrel,And the dealer was advised to do it this way by he's firearms department. Get that in writing... I would say it's a job for someone in the know (Mike Everliegh) to advise on. I didn't even know you could get warnings on an FAC? PErhaps speak to a few other people/dealers/smiths about it and check out HO guidance etc for clues Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Did you hand the S1 shotgun to the RFD and then he replaced the barrel fitted the new one and then keep the old barrel ,If so it was a repair/replacement carried out by an authorised RFD and no paperwork was required , At any time you only had in your possession a complete firearm with serial number on the receiver , Irrespective of any other numbers on it and that is what you firearm certificate gives you authority for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhawk Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Worse case I am going to sell the gun to the rfd and one for one with another gun.As the way my fac looks it shows I got one gun and one spare barrel when I only got a complete gun . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhawk Posted January 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 (edited) Did you hand the S1 shotgun to the RFD and then he replaced the barrel fitted the new one and then keep the old barrel ,If so it was a repair/replacement carried out by an authorised RFD and no paperwork was required , At any time you only had in your possession a complete firearm with serial number on the receiver , Irrespective of any other numbers on it and that is what you firearm certificate gives you authority for. I took firearm down but he never booked firearm in as repair,Just Gave me a reciept for new barrel and kept old barrel and gave me a scrapped receipt for that. Edited January 14, 2012 by silverhawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy H Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 The Rfd does not need to book it in if the repair can be done on the spot so to speak , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlaserF3 Posted January 14, 2012 Report Share Posted January 14, 2012 Hi all,In april last year I had to replace barrel for my section 1 shotgun,When the dealer replaced the barrel he was advised by hes department to enter the barrel S/N on to my fac even though i didnt have a slot so theres a record of a barrel change on the gun.And the dealer kept the old barrel of my shotgun. I ended up with a letter and warning on my file for buying an additional barrel without a variation.And my barrel is listed as a spare when its a part of the gun.As well as threats of 5years prison from my feo .;;Ive sent a letter to the firearms manager explaining this is a miss understanding and no additional barrel was in my possession.And if he could reconsider this warning but this has been just brushed off and my certificate sent back. I have been in touch with organisations and the only way around this is to make a complaint against the feo.I have tried letting it just go but over the past months it just keeps winding me up when I think about it . Should I just let it go Cumbria used to have a couple of feo's who were very obstructive and lacking in commonsense, they were sacked. If you cannot receive satisfaction with the manager ask if you can speak with whoever is in charge of them, some feo's seem to think they are little tin gods and forget that they are civilian employees. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 hey bud. write a formal complaint to the chief of police and make sure its him that opens it address it as chief of police. not the mangers its not uncommon for the chief not to know whats going on in his department. and if its a formal complaint he has the duty to follow it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted January 15, 2012 Report Share Posted January 15, 2012 hey bud. write a formal complaint to the chief of police and make sure its him that opens it address it as chief of police. not the mangers its not uncommon for the chief not to know whats going on in his department. and if its a formal complaint he has the duty to follow it up. This is the route to go. What you have done is completely within the law. A section 1 re barrel, where you are not in possession of an additional barrel does not require you to notify the police and you have broken no law. A variation is not required. A complaint to the CC is the way forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silverhawk Posted February 7, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 (edited) All sorted now.Thanks for the advice everyone . Edited February 7, 2012 by silverhawk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted February 7, 2012 Report Share Posted February 7, 2012 Good news what happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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