Gadge-it Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 I,ve been thinking of applying for my FAC but not sure on what to get its just a small calibre of rifle iam after etc {22,rimfire} whats your thoughts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jackson Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 When i applied for mine I put down for both .17 HMR and .22 LR. As I was only going to shoot bunnies. When I got my licence I decided to buy a .17 HMR, what a great buy. I love it, a bit loud, but worth every penny. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikky Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 are you in a club or shooting on permissions mikky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marktattoo Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Depends on what you are wanting to shoot with it and also depends type of use target club / field or both etc. If you are wanting one for field use bunny bashing then dependant on the lay of the land then 17hmr or .22lr would be you starting point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 What do you want to shoot and where is the first question? There are too many differences between the rounds to suggest anything useful! I could tell you which rimfire I like, but that info would be next to useless to you. So, what do you need it for? Club use or farm use? What do you want to shoot with it etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Let us know what your using it for. If shooting rabbits at less than 100 yards on land that isn't stony or anything else which could cause ricochet then a .22lr is ideal, if you want easier shooting over longer distances and/or have land that's unsafe for a .22 then a .17 is better. If using it for target shooting a .22 is probably better, though others would know much more than me about that! Tell us more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadge-it Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 are you in a club or shooting on permissions mikky Shooting on permission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadge-it Posted January 27, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Shooting vermin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david hunter Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 put in for the 17 and .22 which ever one you choose you will still have a slot for the other.dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 What do you want to shoot and where is the first question? There are too many differences between the rounds to suggest anything useful! I could tell you which rimfire I like, but that info would be next to useless to you. So, what do you need it for? Club use or farm use? What do you want to shoot with it etc? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Shooting vermin We could do with a litle more if you want some constructive advice? How big is the land, what borders it, what is the topography like, what is it used for, etc etc, can you get close to the quarry or is it open land and long shots, and what do you call Vermin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
graham Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Go FOR BOTH THE 22,17.My 22 is at the back of the shop, the 17 is at the window only bad thing about the 1.7hmr is cost of rounds :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadge-it Posted January 28, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 We could do with a litle more if you want some constructive advice? How big is the land, what borders it, what is the topography like, what is it used for, etc etc, can you get close to the quarry or is it open land and long shots, and what do you call Vermin? Are you having a laugh what do you call vermin,if you dont no then your the wrong person to answer my question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) Are you having a laugh what do you call vermin,if you dont no then your the wrong person to answer my question My question was ..what do YOU call vermin? Edited January 28, 2012 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peppergun Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 (edited) I,ve been thinking of applying for my FAC but not sure on what to get its just a small calibre of rifle iam after etc {22,rimfire} whats your thoughts A little vague but hopefully this brief summary should give you direction: Club Use: Whatever you want, providing you have suitable facilities. .22LR is an excellent place to start for a first time rifleman as you will not develop a recoil flinch. Rounds are reasonably priced and subsonic ones are accurate especially with a moderator which are also reasonably priced. Bear in mind you will need a slot for a moderator. You may choose a semi automatic or single shot bolt action. Field Use: You will need land to zero in on and practice, learn wind, elevation etc. It is unrealistic to expect to dive straight in. I spend lots of time recceing no matter how well I think know my land. You will need written permission to be on land with a firearm, unless you own it and the land will have to be cleared by the appropriate constabulary regardless for the chosen (appropriate) calibre. I read you stated rimfire but felt it prudent to include centrefire info as I was unsure what you wanted to shoot. Moderators are beneficial relating to noise, mussel flash and recoil reduction. .17HMR .22LR- Small game including Rabbits, Squirrels etc out to 80yds (ish, further for HMR) Hollow point, expanding or ballistic tips. .22CF (.222, .223 .22-250 to name a few) Fox, CWD + Muntjack (Min 1000ftlbs, 50 grain and .220) Hollow point. .243 Deer Species (This list is massively incomplete but I will stop here) Hope this helps. Edited January 28, 2012 by Peppergun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njc110381 Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 Are you having a laugh what do you call vermin,if you dont no then your the wrong person to answer my question Or to look at it another way there are several forms of vermin. He could well be a really good bloke to answer your question if only you'd give him enough info to work with! So far we've got it that you need a rifle to shoot vermin. So you need a .22lr, .17HMR, ,22WMR, .22 Hornet, .223....... I've had all of those apart from a WMR for vermin at one time or another and they all do a great job. There you go, was that helpful for you? No? Well give us a decent question to answer then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadge-it Posted January 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 A little vague but hopefully this brief summary should give you direction: Club Use: Whatever you want, providing you have suitable facilities. .22LR is an excellent place to start for a first time rifleman as you will not develop a recoil flinch. Rounds are reasonably priced and subsonic ones are accurate especially with a moderator which are also reasonably priced. Bear in mind you will need a slot for a moderator. You may choose a semi automatic or single shot bolt action. Field Use: You will need land to zero in on and practice, learn wind, elevation etc. It is unrealistic to expect to dive straight in. I spend lots of time recceing no matter how well I think know my land. You will need written permission to be on land with a firearm, unless you own it and the land will have to be cleared by the appropriate constabulary regardless for the chosen (appropriate) calibre. I read you stated rimfire but felt it prudent to include centrefire info as I was unsure what you wanted to shoot. Moderators are beneficial relating to noise, mussel flash and recoil reduction. .17HMR .22LR- Small game including Rabbits, Squirrels etc out to 80yds (ish, further for HMR) Hollow point, expanding or ballistic tips. .22CF (.222, .223 .22-250 to name a few) Fox, CWD + Muntjack (Min 1000ftlbs, 50 grain and .220) Hollow point. .243 Deer Species (This list is massively incomplete but I will stop here) Hope this helps. Great imfor that helps alot cheers Go FOR BOTH THE 22,17.My 22 is at the back of the shop, the 17 is at the window only bad thing about the 1.7hmr is cost of rounds :( Is there a big difference between the both{cost of the rounds} Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 Is there a big difference between the both{cost of the rounds} As a rough guide around 25p/round for the .17, around 8p/round for the .22. .17 are flatter shooting and less prone to ricochet, .22 is cheap and silent (the .17 makes a loud crack), and is ideal for 100 yards easily unless on stony/wet land where ricochet is a real danger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sepulchre Posted February 1, 2012 Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 IMHO If your applying for your FAC I would without doubt apply for a .22LR to include a moderator, my personal choice is a Ruger 10/22 easily modified and tough as old boots, parts are readily available and it's a cheap way to get into shooting / pest control with an FAC, moderated they are almost silent, and with a good barrel you'll get rabbits and squirrels at 100 meters plus with practice, And as a bonus you get a choice of bullet weights, case lengths and muzzle velocities to play with from .22 short (wont cycle the guns action) to super snappy stingers (check with barrel manufacturer first with stingers) Without getting techy the only disadvantage of a .22 is they will and do ricochet Always shoot safely and be sure of your back stop, if you can't see where the round is going to stop, simply don't take the shot, so if you intend to shoot pigeon out of trees or off barn roofs an air rifle is a safer and more appropriate option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gadge-it Posted February 1, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 1, 2012 IMHO If your applying for your FAC I would without doubt apply for a .22LR to include a moderator, my personal choice is a Ruger 10/22 easily modified and tough as old boots, parts are readily available and it's a cheap way to get into shooting / pest control with an FAC, moderated they are almost silent, and with a good barrel you'll get rabbits and squirrels at 100 meters plus with practice, And as a bonus you get a choice of bullet weights, case lengths and muzzle velocities to play with from .22 short (wont cycle the guns action) to super snappy stingers (check with barrel manufacturer first with stingers) Without getting techy the only disadvantage of a .22 is they will and do ricochet Always shoot safely and be sure of your back stop, if you can't see where the round is going to stop, simply don't take the shot, so if you intend to shoot pigeon out of trees or off barn roofs an air rifle is a safer and more appropriate option. Cheers for that some great imfor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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