cockercas Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 i fancy a .22 hornet, for when i know i wont be taking long shots at fox. what do you recon my chances are, with two .22lrs and .243. id phone the feo but i have the feeling that if i asked him about getting a hornet, he would say they are bigger than a wasp and have a nasty sting. and can i use the T8 of the .243 on a hornet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 i fancy a .22 hornet, for when i know i wont be taking long shots at fox. what do you recon my chances are, with two .22lrs and .243. id phone the feo but i have the feeling that if i asked him about getting a hornet, he would say they are bigger than a wasp and have a nasty sting. and can i use the T8 of the .243 on a hornet? All things being equal (except we know they're not) you should be OK. My mob have allowed me two. Can't answer for the T8, but the MAE 22WMSTS does the job very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Put forwards your good reason. Mine was i felt even moderated the .243 was too noisy for some locations and purposes and thought the extra power an extra unneeded risk to manage on some of my ground adding i also wanted a gun that i could carry day to day and deal with anything short of a deer (which i never realy shoot unplanned). It realy has done all that for me. I had to loose the HMR as at the time i had 4 other rifles similary conditioned on my FAC, i dont miss it one bit as the Hornet truely does everything the hummer could and much more. I cannot see the issue as the .22lr will not tackle long range rabbits and is underpowered for foxes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 Yes but you will need another rear bush cutting to fit the new gun most likely and the thread must be cut the same, mine was quite effective but not as good as the T12 scout i later purchased. You will need the T8 conditioned for both guns this sometimes creates grief as they see it as another calibre (dont ask ) and they tell you to buy another Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted February 14, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 im sending the the fac in to get my ammo allowance raised. so seen as i have to wait an age and fill the forms in i might aswell use a bit more ink and ask for a hornet and mod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedeerman Posted February 14, 2012 Report Share Posted February 14, 2012 I've got a T8 on my hornet and I'd say its quieter than my HMR with a SAK on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 im sending the the fac in to get my ammo allowance raised. so seen as i have to wait an age and fill the forms in i might aswell use a bit more ink and ask for a hornet and mod. why the hornet? If its purely fox as you seem to intimate there are lots of choices you just know when you take it out fox won't play ball and will be a bit further out. If I was after another fox gun it would be something very flat and fast possibly either .17 in caliber or .20 both capable of firing lighter bullets than the .243 and sending them downrange fairly fast. I'd be wanting something that didn't after the initial use just get left in the cabinet. You've got a bunny gun and a Deer / fox one just say you want something for fox and winged vermin thats at distance without having to use the .243 all the time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 why the hornet? If its purely fox as you seem to intimate there are lots of choices you just know when you take it out fox won't play ball and will be a bit further out. If I was after another fox gun it would be something very flat and fast possibly either .17 in caliber or .20 both capable of firing lighter bullets than the .243 and sending them downrange fairly fast. I'd be wanting something that didn't after the initial use just get left in the cabinet. You've got a bunny gun and a Deer / fox one just say you want something for fox and winged vermin thats at distance without having to use the .243 all the time. A little of what you fancy....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 why the hornet? If its purely fox as you seem to intimate there are lots of choices you just know when you take it out fox won't play ball and will be a bit further out. If I was after another fox gun it would be something very flat and fast possibly either .17 in caliber or .20 both capable of firing lighter bullets than the .243 and sending them downrange fairly fast. I'd be wanting something that didn't after the initial use just get left in the cabinet. You've got a bunny gun and a Deer / fox one just say you want something for fox and winged vermin thats at distance without having to use the .243 all the time. Well firstly the guy already has a .243" conditioned for fox, that will take the longer range foxes as good or better than anything. There is then little need for something faster. It might well be that the 17 ack etc fly flatter but they are also lacking in terminal performance on fox within that extra range window and harder / more fiddly to load , with a non existant factory round or brass in the UK. You do totally fail to get the point of the Hornet presently, though that might change over time and experiance at which point you will be kicking yourself- so keep an open mind . I remember my much earlier derision of the .243" as a stalking rifle, yet over time and understanding i totally appriciate its many virtues and could never see myself without one today. As regards the fox staying a bit too far out, the same could be said of the smaller bore shotguns - yet they have many fans. I dont shoot from the back of a noisy 4x4 and know and also enjoy the challenge of getting in close enough personally. Suppose i could fancy myself as the old timer at the back mopping up all the birds with his 28 bore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cockercas Posted February 15, 2012 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 why the hornet? If its purely fox as you seem to intimate there are lots of choices you just know when you take it out fox won't play ball and will be a bit further out. If I was after another fox gun it would be something very flat and fast possibly either .17 in caliber or .20 both capable of firing lighter bullets than the .243 and sending them downrange fairly fast. I'd be wanting something that didn't after the initial use just get left in the cabinet. You've got a bunny gun and a Deer / fox one just say you want something for fox and winged vermin thats at distance without having to use the .243 all the time. why load 26gr of powder instead of 9? a hornet will do for what i want. and i quite fancy one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 why load 26gr of powder instead of 9? a hornet will do for what i want. and i quite fancy one And if you except it for what it is like that in practice, rather than resent it for what it isn't like many you will grow to like it very much indeed- it fits a slot, you don't need to carry a sledgehammer to crack a nut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Logic Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Have to say I am considering getting a 17 Fireball. I love my little Hornet but I often shoot 200 yards, and it's too far for the little gun on a regular basis. The Fireball will do that with 16-20gr of powder, which against Hornet at 12.3 (H110 under a 35gr bullet, about the best Hornet load unless you can seat a 40gr plastic bullet out a bit) seems a pretty fair compromise for the extra range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 15, 2012 Report Share Posted February 15, 2012 Have to say I am considering getting a 17 Fireball. I love my little Hornet but I often shoot 200 yards, and it's too far for the little gun on a regular basis. The Fireball will do that with 16-20gr of powder, which against Hornet at 12.3 (H110 under a 35gr bullet, about the best Hornet load unless you can seat a 40gr plastic bullet out a bit) seems a pretty fair compromise for the extra range. Try upping your bullet weights first Try a good hefty fill of lil gun, play around with the primers (dont forget pistol primers) and boot out a 45 grn bullet. its quite capable at 200yds. Mine will keep an inch at 225 even with a relitively sedate 2550 fps and a 46 grn RWS TMS - seirras in a 45grn Hornet specifc i can push at 2900 but have yet to find the day and time to realy test them to thier limits SD and 100 yds groups are spot on and consistant. 35 v-max shoot great at 50, passable at 100 yet bad at 150 and totally not worth aiming at 200 by comparisom add to that the poor windages and inability to hold onto the muzzle speed a waste of time (windages off memory are not far off that of the HMR with this pill) I do not use out of col loads as find no need. All guns are different but still food for thought non the less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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