Gizza22196 Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Later on in the year i was going to get some 3" Mammoth Magum 50g BB cartridges for fox shooting at harvest but was wondering what choke i should have in, i just dont want to stick a skeet in when i should have a full or something like that as i have never had any experience with the chokes when i have used these size loads before so i dont have the slightest idea of what to have in The gun is a Hatsan Escort Magnum with the full set of chokes And also what would be the ranage limit for this cartridge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beretta28g Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Erm, Max range id say is going to be 25-30 yards max. If they are not steel shot you can use any choke you want really but you wont go wrong with half choke. If steel shot go 1/4 choke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Erm, Max range id say is going to be 25-30 yards max. If they are not steel shot you can use any choke you want really but you wont go wrong with half choke. If steel shot go 1/4 choke. as above go half choke thats what i used with some 50g loads for mr fox and same gun as you colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizza22196 Posted March 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Brilliant, thanks guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 (edited) i use 1/2 with 50g no3s they pattern really well and still have more than enough poke to kill a fox at 35yrds and beyond and have the advantage more dense pattern than larger shot sizes. should probably say i personally wouldn't shoot a fox past 35yrds but im sure they'd do the job. Edited March 17, 2012 by bicykillgaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 I would advise its down to the distance - I would use 1/4 up to 20 yds and a 1/2 above that to max 40 yds. Shoot afew and you can advise everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted March 17, 2012 Report Share Posted March 17, 2012 Big shot doesn't seem to like tight chokes very much so with bb's I would use half choke. They will be plenty for foxes at 40 yards. Good job you've got an auto. Doesn't take many 50 gram magnums to do your shoulder in next day. I know that from experience. :blink: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizza22196 Posted March 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) So using smaller shot like 3 could increase your range slightly because of a tighter choke or is 40 yards the maximum still because the shot arent carrying as much energy Edited March 18, 2012 by Gizza22196 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 (edited) its possible to shoot past 40 but id never advise it, you'd have to do a hell of a lot of pattern testing and be shooting against something that would mimic a fox to check penetration if possible. a tighter choke will keep your pattern tighter at longer ranges but won't make it penetrate more which it what will count, you don't want to be just covering a fox with flesh wounds, but with larger shot you don't want to be getting brilliant penetration in non vital areas and the fox running and dieing in pain. you need both pattern and penetration. I've only patterned mine out to 30yrds and it was covering more than adequately, i had no way of checking penetration though so didn't see the point in testing it at 40+ yrds as i won't shoot them that far. i might give it a go next Saturday out of curiosity see how well they pattern @40, 45 & 50 if i get chance. atb Gary Edited March 18, 2012 by bicykillgaz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gizza22196 Posted March 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 Thanks, ill see if i can scrounge a couple of 1's or 3's off some mates aswell and test them on the pattern plate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bicykillgaz Posted March 18, 2012 Report Share Posted March 18, 2012 if your near me I'll give you a handful, can't see as im on my phone. im in gainsborough in lincolnshire atb gary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 you could use skeet, at those loads, choking could just blow the pattern way out. this isnt a new topic. but i`ve known guys to reload up slow SGs and have them pattern beutifully. in some cases producing a very nice 1ft pattern at +25 yards, the nice part being all shot hit the board. i think a good belt with either slow SG load, or 42g BB load, up to #4 buckshot. so the options are there, dont be too tied down to the 3" magnum "cwap" 42g loads are big enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salop Matt Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 I use 52gram 0`s through 1/4 choke and fine to 35yards ! Thats through a Benelli Semi-Auto m2 and there still a beast, wouldnt fancy it though anything other than a semi as the kick in a O/U would be terrible or so i would imagine ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizzini Posted March 19, 2012 Report Share Posted March 19, 2012 You want a fairly good killing pattern on you're shotgun mate otherwise wounding will become a regular thing. Go out and test the chokes and see what pattern at different ranges you are getting. Iv seen foxes run on with 3 shot's of 42gram 1's at 25 yards but have also seen foxes drop at 40 with a 36Gram BB, this was due to choke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted March 20, 2012 Report Share Posted March 20, 2012 You want a fairly good killing pattern on you're shotgun mate otherwise wounding will become a regular thing. Go out and test the chokes and see what pattern at different ranges you are getting. Iv seen foxes run on with 3 shot's of 42gram 1's at 25 yards but have also seen foxes drop at 40 with a 36Gram BB, this was due to choke. and shotsize selection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizzini Posted March 24, 2012 Report Share Posted March 24, 2012 (edited) and shotsize selection Sorry yes this plays an important role aswell. Any shot from #1 to BB is a good cartridge, when you go to AAA and SSG these can be hit and miss, literally ! Edited March 24, 2012 by Rizzini Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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