FAC Interview

[Livefast123]

Whats next, you have to take a mobile lie detector whilst you are interviewed :yp:

[Amazed]

I don't feel that my privacy has been invaded by any of the prosses and the only issue I have had is the time involved. debating second and third hand information that may or may not be true is almost as much of a time wasting exercise but achieves nothing.

[Graham M]

I don't feel that my privacy has been invaded by any of the prosses and the only issue I have had is the time involved. debating second and third hand information that may or may not be true is almost as much of a time wasting exercise but achieves nothing.

WOW!!!! What a trusting soul you are :blink:

Can you lend me a couple of thousand ££££££££££s please.

I'll pay you back ...honest

 

 

G.M.

[pat g]

Providing you are a member of one of the shooting organisations, which i sincerely hope you are, then my advice would be to contact them immediately, 1st thing in the morning if not sooner . We can all presume and try and offer the best advice on here but in reality instances like this where police forces are simply making the rules up as they go along must stop. And we, as shooters must not tolerate these increasing instances any longer.

Here is a typical example why firearms licensing needs to be taken away from police forces and be administered by a central body following standard lines of enquiry that must be strictly adhered to.

Unfortunately Durham seem to have an appalling record when it comes to firearms licensing and reading between the lines here and taking into account their recent short comings they are simply just trying to "clean their act up", a bit like closing the stable door after the horse has bolted whilst at the same time not following proccedure.

At the end of the day why do they ask for referee's. They are the ones who are contacted for character references not people who live near you and indeed may not have even known you very long. Shocking really.

Like i say get in touch with BASC or CA. Be interesting to hear what advice they give you.

Good luck

ATB,

Pat

[Davyo]

Thanks for the advise lads,i have sent email to Basc & awaiting a reply.Its been a week gone Friday since my interview & no news yet.One worrying point i left of my initial thread was that when i showed him to my cabinet & amo safe & as i was opening the amo safe i was advising him that i also keep my 12g cartidges locked away in this safe.His relpy was "do you have a SG cert?"HOW CAN HE BE COMMING FOR A FAC CHECK THAT HAS TOOK 4MTHS & NOT KNOW I ALREADY HOLD A SG CERT?

[Bazooka Joe]

Unfortunately Durham seem to have an appalling record when it comes to firearms licensing and reading between the lines here and taking into account their recent short comings they are simply just trying to "clean their act up", a bit like closing the stable door after the horse has bolted whilst at the same time not following proccedure.

 

Durham do indeed have a terrible record. I've been shooting for over 40yrs, & every time one of my certs has come up for renewal there's always been a problem.

 

In all them years I've only had one FEO that was near enough, & the people they employ in the FLO haven't a clue either. They interpret the Firearms guide lines the way they see fit, or believe to be right.

 

Its been a week gone Friday since my interview & no news yet

 

Don't hold your breath Davyo, it's now 90 days turn around for Durham...

Edited May 27, 2012 by Bazooka Joe

[bedwards1966]

Thanks for the advise lads,i have sent email to Basc & awaiting a reply.Its been a week gone Friday since my interview & no news yet.One worrying point i left of my initial thread was that when i showed him to my cabinet & amo safe & as i was opening the amo safe i was advising him that i also keep my 12g cartidges locked away in this safe.His relpy was "do you have a SG cert?"HOW CAN HE BE COMMING FOR A FAC CHECK THAT HAS TOOK 4MTHS & NOT KNOW I ALREADY HOLD A SG CERT?

 

I wouldn't worry about not having heard anything for a week, give them a ring in a month or so and see what's happening!

The next step should be to receive the certificate through the post, so it should just be a matter or waiting.

 

I find it rather worrying (to put it mildly) that the FEO was not aware that you held a SGC while considering your application for a FAC. Either the firearms department has some serious paperwork issues that need addressing, or the FEO isn't able to read the notes and information he has. Not good. I assume you have a shotgun in your cabinet? Surely he'd have noticed that and said something if he didn't know you hold a certificate?

[Bazooka Joe]

I wouldn't worry about not having heard anything for a week, give them a ring in a month or so and see what's happening!

The next step should be to receive the certificate through the post, so it should just be a matter or waiting.

 

 

See post 31...

[Katzenjammer]

I agree with virtually all that has been said to date. Talk about closing the stable door after the horse has bolted for this is what Durham appear to be doing. You are contacting the right people for help and back-up and I would float the security angle past them - loose lips sink ships to use the old ww2 adage and the breach of confidentiality/data protection if not already done.

 

Have you read the police guidelines on procedures - I downloaded it from this site - a hefty document but forewarned is forarmed. These are under review and will no doubt be revised - we all need to be ready for a sturdy opposition if they include widening the field of enquiry on suitability to neighbours, people stopped at random in the street etc etc.

 

Why don't they just have a big neon sign they bung on top of your house saying this guy has applied for gun licenses - what do you think? Should we let him have one?

[JonathanL]

I agree with virtually all that has been said to date. Talk about closing the stable door after the horse has bolted for this is what Durham appear to be doing. You are contacting the right people for help and back-up and I would float the security angle past them - loose lips sink ships to use the old ww2 adage and the breach of confidentiality/data protection if not already done.

 

Have you read the police guidelines on procedures - I downloaded it from this site - a hefty document but forewarned is forarmed. These are under review and will no doubt be revised - we all need to be ready for a sturdy opposition if they include widening the field of enquiry on suitability to neighbours, people stopped at random in the street etc etc.

 

Why don't they just have a big neon sign they bung on top of your house saying this guy has applied for gun licenses - what do you think? Should we let him have one?

 

Agree with everything here.

 

The police line seems to be that the more people they can ask about you the better picture of you they get. That may be true but they aren't considering what harm they may be doing in the process - especially from the general security point of view. They are missing the bigger picture.

 

Look at it this way; suppose the guy living next door to Michael Atherton at Perterlee applied for an FAC/SGC and Atheron didn't already have one. Given what we now know about Atherton's character - is he really the type of person the police want to be telling that there are guns next door?

 

J.

[spanj]

Never stopped them before.

 

I couldn't care less who he asks if I am a trust worthy person. I have nothing to hide.

 

You know when your applying they will be getting into your life and will do it in the way they see fit under there guidlines, you can except it or don't apply.

 

I am happy with the prosess as a whole it has been a while getting it printed up tho but that's down to the climate I am afrraid. The people I have spoken to have been helpfull understanding and nice. And as long as I stay the right side of the fence or law if you like they will stay like that.

Karl.

 

a victim in waiting....