Hushpower 20g O/U

[White Lodge]

Hello everybody.

 

I have just bought a Hushpower 20g o/u and I am currently using Lyvale Express Special Twenty 25g with size 6 shot. These are lowest gram cartridge Mole Vally had.

 

Being a bit new to this am I right in thinking the lower the charge the less noise that is created? I know that there will be much more to it that that but is that the general rule?

 

The cartridges are not the quietest in the world but compared to a 12g there was a marked difference, especially no need for earplugs.

 

What would you suggest as a nice quiet cartridge suitable for use near horses/holiday homes/people from the city etc for pigeons and rabbits?

 

Thanks in advance

 

[henry c]

Hi,

 

You need to get the specific Subsonic cartridges such as Eley "Hushpower Subsonic". Standard cartridges break the sound barrier, which causes a lot of the noise. You'll be amazed at the difference.

[sitsinhedges]

Hello everybody.

 

I have just bought a Hushpower 20g o/u and I am currently using Lyvale Express Special Twenty 25g with size 6 shot. These are lowest gram cartridge Mole Vally had.

 

Being a bit new to this am I right in thinking the lower the charge the less noise that is created? I know that there will be much more to it that that but is that the general rule?

 

The cartridges are not the quietest in the world but compared to a 12g there was a marked difference, especially no need for earplugs.

 

What would you suggest as a nice quiet cartridge suitable for use near horses/holiday homes/people from the city etc for pigeons and rabbits?

 

Thanks in advance

 

 

You're going in the wrong direction with shot weights.

 

A shotgun barrel is proofed for a given pressure and a heavier payload will have to be slower to stay within those pressure limits. The lighter one will need a faster powder to generate enough pressure to burn reliably and the shot load will generally be faster just because it can be.

 

I load my own very successfully but if I were to buy some I would probably start with Gamebore Traditional Game 28gram fibre 6s. I had a few of them in my bag the other day and never really noticed the difference.

 

Also bear in mind that your barrels are ported to bleed off the expanding gases and this in turn affects velocity, in mine I reckon by around 100 fps roughly. This is maybe why a slow fibre game cartridge can still work well when it's theoretically supersonic.

 

If you are firing towards a wood, hedges etc you will always get sound bounce back and it will sound loud but in fields firing into the air it will be just nice.

 

I'm using my husher o/u for all decoying now and it means I can shoot in places a normal gun just wouldn't be acceptable in.

 

Once you find its point of aim it's as effective as any other gun.

[chrispti]

Gamebore make a subsonic 20g game load. 30g #5. I found them to be very good.

[Guest cookoff013]

You're going in the wrong direction with shot weights.

 

A shotgun barrel is proofed for a given pressure and a heavier payload will have to be slower to stay within those pressure limits. The lighter one will need a faster powder to generate enough pressure to burn reliably and the shot load will generally be faster just because it can be.

 

I load my own very successfully but if I were to buy some I would probably start with Gamebore Traditional Game 28gram fibre 6s. I had a few of them in my bag the other day and never really noticed the difference.

 

Also bear in mind that your barrels are ported to bleed off the expanding gases and this in turn affects velocity, in mine I reckon by around 100 fps roughly. This is maybe why a slow fibre game cartridge can still work well when it's theoretically supersonic.

 

If you are firing towards a wood, hedges etc you will always get sound bounce back and it will sound loud but in fields firing into the air it will be just nice.

 

I'm using my husher o/u for all decoying now and it means I can shoot in places a normal gun just wouldn't be acceptable in.

 

Once you find its point of aim it's as effective as any other gun.

+1

i`d listen to this guy if i were you.

 

heavyer payloads are easyer to keep slow, as heavyer payloads need special slow burning powder to achieve standard speeds at safe pressures. sits has it spot on.

i reload subsonics because i can. nice light game load for a sxs.

you need to buy hushpower, magnasonic,subsonic,chevron, low speed, low recoil loads. those are all marketing **** to say "low speed" shells.

 

without upsetting you too much, but to get the best out of your hushpower, reloading is the way to go. most places dont stock funny loads, let alone funny 20gauge loads.

 

i`m not quite on a mission to get everyone to reload, but you have bought a sub gauge specialist tool, so better with specialist ammo. you wouldnt buy a F1 car and try and run it on diesel,.

 

as the other posters have said, try a traditional game load, but slightly higher grams than normal.

[White Lodge]

Cheers for the replies.

 

So a heavier load will be slower and therefore quieter as it wouldn't break sound barrier.

 

The 25g refers to shot weight and not to the weight of the propellent then?

 

I will try and get some 28g from Mole Valley and see the difference.

 

I will see what I can find locally either Ely or Hushpower, otherwise Just Cartridges will get a call.

[White Lodge]

@ sitsinhedges, just an aside here, but what if any gun slip do you use, all the ones I have seen are either long enough but too narrow or wide enough but too short!

[tiny tim]

in mine the lyvale are quiet as are eley game .the noiseiest are sipe and fiocci<spelling>

 

sits in hedges is right fibre wads are quiter as are the heavier loads

 

i use the hushpower all the time just because i dont need ear defenders and am able to hear birds coming in better

[White Lodge]

Hello everyone.

 

I have had the "drainpipe" (as it has been nicknamed by the other half) out a couple of times over the week shoot at both clays and pigeons. Not the best performance I will admit but then again I am returning to shotguns after a few years away.

 

Now then, on coming targets seemed ok to hit, just cover them with the end of the barrel, all the others were a bit more challenging. Is it best to aim higher than normal and if so by how much? I appreciate that that is probably the holy grail in shotgunning but I am not talking about lead as such more sight picture.

 

Here in North Cornwall it has been quite windy so I think that will be having an effect too (no I am not just saying that )

 

Any suggestions appreciated.

Edited September 11, 2012 by White Lodge

[sitsinhedges]

I tend to tuck the stock comb under my cheekbone so that i'm about 10mm high at the breech looking down the barrel to account for the fact that they appear to shoot low.

 

You need to pattern it and see where the shot is going then adjust. The Gamebore Hushpower 30g/5 cartridges that I tried seemed to shoot very low though and on the chrono showed silly low velocities and that is why I wont use them. I also have a very low bead, barely a bump on the outer tube, which helps to put the shot lower, whereas a taller bead would tend to put the shot higher if you are using the top as the point of aim that we are supposed to.

[Guest cookoff013]

Hello everyone.

 

I have had the "drainpipe" (as it has been nicknamed by the other half) out a couple of times over the week shoot at both clays and pigeons. Not the best performance I will admit but then again I am returning to shotguns after a few years away.

 

Now then, on coming targets seemed ok to hit, just cover them with the end of the barrel, all the others were a bit more challenging. Is it best to aim higher than normal and if so by how much? I appreciate that that is probably the holy grail in shotgunning but I am not talking about lead as such more sight picture.

 

Here in North Cornwall it has been quite windy so I think that will be having an effect too (no I am not just saying that )

 

Any suggestions appreciated.

 

what you need to do is pattern the gun to establish the poi / poa relationship, you can alter the stock and /or change the way your eye is in relationship with the rib (non existing because of pipe) is it shooting high or low. there is a way to change it.

[White Lodge]

SGC have some Hushpower cartridges in stock, so when I get a chance I shall hoof it over there and get some.

I noticed that the gun was shooting low when I was shooting clays with it, but I thought that that was just me. I will rig up a large piece of card or similar and find the POA/POI relationship. What range should I be using, would 30 yards be ok or does it not really matter?

Can anyone recommend a decent slip, my old one is not long enough. I don't really want to pay through the nose but I don't want a pile of **** either. Sadly the Jack Pyke ones seem too short.

Any suggestions most welcome.

 

Edited September 19, 2012 by White Lodge

[Guest cookoff013]

you dont need special carts to work out the poi. just use whatever.

as for the range, use 20 yards or 15 to start with, the poi may change moving back. please check again, will cost you 2 cartridges, but should fill you with confidence.

 

you may have to alter the comb of the stock, increasing the comb should raise poi? (i think, maybe?)