barrold Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Evening all Just a quick one for you.There appears to be a few topics on here regarding 10 bores and I've got the chance of an old SBS one for on the marsh. Been doing some investigation before i commit to it and was wondering if anyone knew anywhere in the lincs area that sells 10 bore cartridges? Or anywhere on the internet that sells them? Any other comments would also be appreciated. Cheers Everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 John Forsey and just cartridges both stock 10 bore. Don't know about a shop in lincs thought! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) Lings in Massingham near Kings Lynn and Woods of Swaffham both have 10 bore Remmington steel shells. But is your old gun proofed for steel ? Edited October 2, 2012 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrold Posted October 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Cheers gents i'll check them out. Barrells aren't steel proof and the chokes are full and full however i'm gonna get them taken out to possibly 1/2 and 1/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Elderkins do a good job on opening chokes out, they did my 12 bore from 3/4 and full to 1/4 and 1/2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrold Posted October 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Whereabouts are they Mat? Was it around 30 quid a barrel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Mat Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 They are in the middle of Spalding, don't know the price as mine was done for free when i bought the gun. http://www.elderkinguns.co.uk/html/contact_us.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrold Posted October 2, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 Spot on, cheers Mat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Adam Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 http://www.partridgeguns.co.uk/contactus/ have a chat with Ron. He is great. I buy all of my stuff from him including my new pup. He's really really good on price for everything especially cartridges. 99% certain he stocks 10's! (null) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 You need to get him to send the gun off to be steel proofed too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 You need to get him to send the gun off to be steel proofed too. why? i have never personally known someone actually do this. The gun should be sound in all respects and choked no more than 1/2. I certainly have no thoughts towards sending mine off so someone can stamp the side and say its ok to do what i already have done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 I am not a 10 bore owner now , but being an old gun I would have thought it would be wise to make sure it can handle the pressures of a modern steel cartridge. I have a 12 bore AYA no 3 ,3inch magnum and would never dream of firing a 3 inch steel through it without having it reproofed for steel shells. Do not want to have to keep counting my fingers after every flight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 I am not a 10 bore owner now , but being an old gun I would have thought it would be wise to make sure it can handle the pressures of a modern steel cartridge. I have a 12 bore AYA no 3 ,3inch magnum and would never dream of firing a 3 inch steel through it without having it reproofed for steel shells. Do not want to have to keep counting my fingers after every flight. There is a lot of difference in an average 10 bore and a 3" 12. I have a Zabala magnum 12 with practically skeet chokes in it, not as tight as i might like but ok as a result i dont put high pressure steel 3" through it and stick to std steel 2 3/4" . The same gun make and model but in the 10 which i also own is like comparing a tank with a transit van as regards the sheer heft and barrel wall thickness, lock up is as tight as you like i will happily fire any factory 10 steel load through it. The owner must make his own choices. A respected lancashire gunsmith looked the 12 over and said " oficial line is any suitable length std pressure steel load" - " if it were mine i should fire any corredct length steel shell though it though". Dont want to sound cavalier but Proof will only put a couple over way over pressure shells down it and see if they can break it- if they cant they will say ok its good to go with std factory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrold Posted October 3, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Interesting discussion there about steel proofing, its something i never really thought about. If i'm honest i just thought that steel proofing protected the barrells from damage internally from steel being harder. I just assumed if something could handle a big load of lead it'd be ok with steel. I knew you couldn't fire steel through full chokes incase of it blowing the barrells but this has gave me something to think about. http://www.partridge...o.uk/contactus/ have a chat with Ron. He is great. I buy all of my stuff from him including my new pup. He's really really good on price for everything especially cartridges. 99% certain he stocks 10's! (null) Smashing, i'll give him a shout. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Adam Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 His name is rob not sorry. Sorry that was the auto correct on my iPhone playing up. Great bloke though (null) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex1Nat2 Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Barrold, Pete Coppin at Alford stocks 10B cartridges. Also Whittlesley Gun Shop do a decent range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrold Posted October 4, 2012 Author Report Share Posted October 4, 2012 Barrold, Pete Coppin at Alford stocks 10B cartridges. Also Whittlesley Gun Shop do a decent range. Super, thats great cheers. I work out Alford way so i'll nip in and see. Cheers for that mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerbyshireDale. Posted October 12, 2012 Report Share Posted October 12, 2012 I am not a 10 bore owner now , but being an old gun I would have thought it would be wise to make sure it can handle the pressures of a modern steel cartridge. I have a 12 bore AYA no 3 ,3inch magnum and would never dream of firing a 3 inch steel through it without having it reproofed for steel shells. Do not want to have to keep counting my fingers after every flight. I use a AYA no3 Magnam with 32gm steel 3 shot in a 3" case, these average 1470 fps at a pressure of 9000 psi, these are home-loaded from current recipes using mordern components...the AYA is proofed to 1200kgcm.....I googled this proof and found that it actually equals around 17000 psi, so as you can see, well within the safety limits of your gun and as long as you use the correct steel wad with open chokes your barrells will stay in their original condition...we actually chronoed this load and found the speed average was correct and they were very soft on the shoulder too, obviously I dont know what the shop bought loads are doing pressure wise?best wishes ...Dale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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