Shotgun bead

[samyw]

Just a quick question to settle a question for a mate when shooting a shotgun at moving targets be it live or clays should u see the bead I am right in saying a shotguns should not be aimed but pointed

[Lord Geordie]

Depends if the bead falls off. Pretty hard to.hit anything if your watching the bead on the ground.

 

Your right! You shouldn't use the shotgun like a rifle. Mount the gun then lock your frame! Where ever your body goes the gun goes. Its a natural fluid movement.

 

I dont have a bead on my.shotgun!

 

 

[samyw]

Depends if the bead falls off. Pretty hard to.hit anything if your watching the bead on the ground.

 

Your right! You shouldn't use the shotgun like a rifle. Mount the gun then lock your frame! Where ever your body goes the gun goes. Its a natural fluid movement.

 

I dont have a bead on my.shotgun!

 

 

 

That's exactly what I think pal

 

Also when I shoot I don't recal seeing the barrels or muzzle what about everyone else

[Lord Geordie]

Periferal vision should see the barrels in the bottom of your view. As for the Muzzle? It all depends on what your shooting. If your shooting clays such as DTL or OT etc you SHOULD see the muzzle and a portion of rib.

 

Sporting normally for me is NO rib what so ever just a totally flat view over the barrels.

[demonwolf444]

when i mount the gun im looking at the target, and swinging with my body, when me and my friend talk about it ( often after missing that pheasant that got away ) we dont recall seeing the gun at all. When i have a long time to think about what im doing eg see a bird coming from a long way off i try and follow it with the bead because im thinking about it too much, end result is i miss.

[Lock Stock & Barrel]

I was always taught not to 'rifle' the shot (i.e. aim the gun), and also to watch the target, NOT the barrels or the bead.

[samyw]

I was always taught not to 'rifle' the shot (i.e. aim the gun), and also to watch the target, NOT the barrels or the bead.

 

 

Me to mate you couldn't of said it better I just focus on target aswell

[samyw]

when i mount the gun im looking at the target, and swinging with my body, when me and my friend talk about it ( often after missing that pheasant that got away ) we dont recall seeing the gun at all. When i have a long time to think

about what im doing eg see a bird coming from a long way off i try and follow it with the bead because im thinking about it too much, end result is i miss

 

 

 

That's what I think mate if you follow with bead then it's aiming that's how a miss happens so it sounds like just focus on the target only

[clayman]

The bead is there to check your mount, gun fit and eye alignment. This is something you do "dry" at home, and on the field / ground, you do in a pre-mount.

 

Once you know exactly how to mount the gun for perfect eye alignment, the bead becomes superfluous as the gun will point exactly where you look, as long as you are follow Lord Gordie's excellent advice on the full body swing.

 

The moment you bury you head into the comb and aim through the bead you will start focus switching from bead to target, and when the focus comes back to the bead to try to observe forward allowance the gun swing slows just as you pull the trigger = miss behind.

 

Good mount and swing - head up and looking over the bead see-ing the rib as the aiming device in the lower periphery vision, is the correct way to aim.

 

Use the bead to repeatedly dry practice so that perfect mount is normal, no after mount corrections.

 

The check is: can you mount with eyes shut, and have perfect aiming eye placement when you open them?

 

Also note, that correct gun fit / mount means the head does not move in the mounting process - the gun should hit cheek and shoulder pretty much at the same time without the head being dropped to the comb - symptomatic of a too low comb or a low mount.