kent Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Well I have been failing to find anyone with the old 75 grm v-max in stock for so long I thought I should try the new 87 grn varmint pt number #2442. Has anyone any hands on experience with them? what did you find on quarry? any good loads? I am not talking the 87 grn soft point but the new varmint hollow point boat tail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Well I have been failing to find anyone with the old 75 grm v-max in stock for so long I thought I should try the new 87 grn varmint pt number #2442. Has anyone any hands on experience with them? what did you find on quarry? any good loads? I am not talking the 87 grn soft point but the new varmint hollow point boat tail Is that the 87gr vmax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixhills 69 Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Is that the 87gr vmax As per Hornady this is a 87gr boot tail hollow point #2442# they also do a soft point and V-max in the same weight i know the 87 vmax are hard to get hold off Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 28, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Its the 87 grn BTHP varmint, not the 87 grn v-max higher BC than even the 95grn 6.5 v-max. Its the 75 grn v-max that I have struggled with getting been using 70 grn nosler and 55 grn nosler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixhills 69 Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 Its the 87 grn BTHP varmint, not the 87 grn v-max higher BC than even the 95grn 6.5 v-max. Its the 75 grn v-max that I have struggled with getting been using 70 grn nosler and 55 grn nosler What powder are you using behind you 87gr BTHP please i have been using the 58gr V-maxin my browning Xbolt getting sub 1/2 groups to 100yrds using varget powder i am looking for a deer round for munties ect Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted January 28, 2013 Report Share Posted January 28, 2013 I had great results with H414 and the 87gr vmax, now use Viht160 for 85gr sierra spitzer and 100gr gamekings, as good results but cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 What powder are you using behind you 87gr BTHP please i have been using the 58gr V-maxin my browning Xbolt getting sub 1/2 groups to 100yrds using varget powder i am looking for a deer round for munties ect this isn't a deer round imo, its a designated varmint bullet!.. try a 95 grn nosler b/tip , that's my favourite roe round and I have tried most. I have never stalked munties. but its good for roe and useable on medium deer without issues (though better choices exist) good for reds in England if neck shot- but not in Scotland were the reds are tougher and the Roe softer LOL! Deer bullets don't need to shoot 1/2" from rested, most of the shots are not rested but off sticks, off hand or kneeling / sitting so the shooter is the weak link. Terminals are the important bit, you want dead deer without excessive carcass damage / spoiled meat. I am about to start with Varget, H4895 and maybe H4350 but its actually anyone else's experiences (with this particular new bullet) I was searching for in this thread initially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hornet 6 Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Why the problem getting 75 grain V-max ? I only have two local shops,Roding and Leech's both have them in stock. Neil. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 (edited) General question around this subject/calibre/bullet/deer. I don't reload and don't pretend to have any great knowledge of reloading, but do you manage to get these lighter .243 up to deer legal energy for England? Especially as it now seems fashionable to have a barrel about as long as my thumbnail. Cheers Edited January 29, 2013 by Dekers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Yes is the simple answer Dekers no problem getting 85's deer legal in my fairly short finlight. I also have no problems getting 75vmax really I see the 87's as either a deer bullet which is open to debate but a bit heavy for foxes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big chop Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Well I have been failing to find anyone with the old 75 grm v-max in stock for so long I thought I should try the new 87 grn varmint pt number #2442. Has anyone any hands on experience with them? what did you find on quarry? any good loads? I am not talking the 87 grn soft point but the new varmint hollow point boat tail Well I have been failing to find anyone with the old 75 grm v-max in stock for so long I thought I should try the new 87 grn varmint pt number #2442. Has anyone any hands on experience with them? what did you find on quarry? any good loads? I am not talking the 87 grn soft point but the new varmint hollow point boat tail they have been out for as along as I can remember,been loading them for years,great bullet on fox and deer with little meat damage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixhills 69 Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Why the problem getting 75 grain V-max ? I only have two local shops,Roding and Leech's both have them in stock. Neil. My local Gunshop has had them on back order since October 2012 please don't ask why? i just ask if he has them in stock and thats the answer i get or they are that popular as soon as they come in the fly of the shelf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 they have been out for as along as I can remember,been loading them for years,great bullet on fox and deer with little meat damage General question around this subject/calibre/bullet/deer. I don't reload and don't pretend to have any great knowledge of reloading, but do you manage to get these lighter .243 up to deer legal energy for England? Especially as it now seems fashionable to have a barrel about as long as my thumbnail. Cheers from what quickload suggests they can potentialy produce 1700 ft lb at 200yds, let alone deer legal at the muzzle. They are not deer bullets though, I have used other hornaday and other manufacturers bullets in same weight that are more appropriate for deer. Hornady Varmint trade mark #2442 BTHP , the BC is .373! this is better than their other similar weight offerings and actually better than the 95 grn 6.5mm v-max. As marked on box "explosive expansion even at low velocities" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 My local Gunshop has had them on back order since October 2012 please don't ask why? i just ask if he has them in stock and thats the answer i get or they are that popular as soon as they come in the fly of the shelf I have a sneaky feeling the 75 v-max got dropped and then re-introduced as it disappeared from Hornaday's site for a while. Did this leave a break in UK shipments I wonder? anyway not been able to get them in quite a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 29, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 Yes is the simple answer Dekers no problem getting 85's deer legal in my fairly short finlight. I also have no problems getting 75vmax really I see the 87's as either a deer bullet which is open to debate but a bit heavy for foxes its not weight that matters is jacket formation, you can get 30cal varmint bullets that splatter at over 100grns in weight for example- don't choose bullets based purely on weight at best its an indicator calibre specific. To expand no pun intended you can get 107grn 6mm bullets that are target non expanding, 80 grn for deer and in the case above 87 grn varmint Go and ask google, maybe you wont slag off their opinion? thanks for the benefit of you vast knowledge of .243" loads Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big chop Posted January 29, 2013 Report Share Posted January 29, 2013 from what quickload suggests they can potentialy produce 1700 ft lb at 200yds, let alone deer legal at the muzzle. They are not deer bullets though, I have used other hornaday and other manufacturers bullets in same weight that are more appropriate for deer. Hornady Varmint trade mark #2442 BTHP , the BC is .373! this is better than their other similar weight offerings and actually better than the 95 grn 6.5mm v-max. As marked on box "explosive expansion even at low velocities" well the 1000s of deer we shot with them didnt complain,its a section 5 expanding missile,so its fully deer legal,but i wouldnt bother with what quickloads says as its only a guide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 30, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2013 I have 1000 75's and 1000 87's in my stores so im not sure why people are having problems getting them? Oh, i shoot either over H4350 although the 75's work over Varget or N140 too. I never list powder charge weights though! I have varget h4895 and h4350 in. going to start with varget I think. Your right not to put out charge weights, I was more after powder thoughts. H4350 is quite a full case but gains marginally the highest velocity if you believe the data though there aint much in it across the board well the 1000s of deer we shot with them didnt complain,its a section 5 expanding missile,so its fully deer legal,but i wouldnt bother with what quickloads says as its only a guide. as are they all inc data from others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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