njc110381 Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 "I'm not interested in a shotty as my fun is stalking and getting a clean kill rather than mass murder if you know what I mean!" I'm sure this has upset a few of us, but mainly due to how it looks to the antis if they read it. Better wording would be helpful next time, but I know what you mean. If you only want to shoot a handfull of birds for yourself, then that's fine. You're still doing your bit. Most of us on here find a good use for the meat of what we shoot, no matter how many birds we get. Just give it away if need be. I'd be using a .177 air rifle. The pellets don't travel any greater distance than a large pellet from a shotty anyway. General safety rules apply, if you're not sure of the background of your shot, hold on to it until the next time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted December 7, 2006 Report Share Posted December 7, 2006 Shooting into trees- the keeper on the estate uses a 17HMR to shoot branchers next to an airfield and crows with a 25-06, I like to let him know where I am. Send me his address and I`ll put him right on a few things HD i share your concerns here! I was talking to a friend about a roost shooting he was offered to attend and offerend to lend him my Falcon .177 but he told me the KEEPER and the others who were shooting there were using HMR and .22RF rifles. I was aghast when i heard this. I am led to beleive a .22RF round can hold enough energy to cause injury out to around 1/2 a mile or more so a 250 yard wood behind the bird hardly counts as a SAFE backstop. Personally i would have thought Shotguns were best BUT seemingly they were near a House and needed to keep the noise down. In a way i am glad i wasn't invited as i THINK i would have ended up in trouble for letting my mouth run wild LG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pin Posted December 8, 2006 Report Share Posted December 8, 2006 a .22 subsonic could reach out to about 1000 yards easily. It wouldn't have much energy left when it got there (under 200fps). It would have to have peaked about 160 some odd feet above the POI to reach that range. This isn't the point though, they travel long ranges and are dangerous at those ranges. When you are out there you have a call to make every shot you take, its up to you if you think its safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim_D Posted December 13, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 EDIT: [badly worded] I am still offended. I took over 50 birds a few times this year, and I used them all. The vast majority were clean kills which are easily achieved with a shotgun and some practice. Poorly chosen language aside this is a pigeon shooting site which has an airgun section as well, it is not a "well I only want a few birds and think 50 is too many for anyone to use" site. I breast them off and freeze what I don't use immediately and work my way through them. No? I appologise for offending you, it's good to hear you use 50 birds. Poorly chosen maybe, but not intended to cause offense to anyone as I am repeatedly saying. A pigeon shooting site it is and yes there is an airgun section you are right, perhaps that section would have been more appropriate. I did not say I think 50 is too many for anyone to use though. Anyway I'm thick skinned and don't take offence as easily... The good news is I've got a .177 that was my grandfathers - a BSA cadet major - not very powerful but accurate on my range at 25 yards. No scope or anything but have shot two pigeons very successfully through the head at this range. The other news is, you've all convinced me I should open my eyes a bit to the shotgun route - whilst I won't be allowed in the fields with horses in, I could go in the others... so I have found a local clay shoot where I can take a lesson and improve my knowledge in this area and can consider this route later in the year. Thanks for everyone's opinion again anyway! Cheers. I'd be using a .177 air rifle. The pellets don't travel any greater distance than a large pellet from a shotty anyway. General safety rules apply, if you're not sure of the background of your shot, hold on to it until the next time Spot on, that's the conclusion I have come to from all of this. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FERRETBOY Posted December 13, 2006 Report Share Posted December 13, 2006 I just want to reply to highlanders post 21 where do all the rounds go that the rag heads put in to the air,ill tell you mate, they hit the ground like any other 7.62 does as i found out in 2003 at Basra Palace after Saddam's sons got it,Back to the original post about shooting in to trees,think back drop all the time for everybody's safety and your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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